{"id":"q588748620988de62c999","batch_id":"batch-000161","seq":726,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-01T02:12:21.567Z","text":"不给利益，在合同里是农场联盟的事。在rico下，就是郭的问题，但政府证据如果只是事后没兑现，通常不足以证明同时性故意，要证明一开始就没打算兑现。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"qf95efe4d95cf53431ade","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q588748620988de62c999","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf95efe4d95cf53431ade","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161/pages/4","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000161/pages/4","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q588748620988de62c999","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q588748620988de62c999/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q588748620988de62c999","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q2dc0b4b5d79b6fe5f6a8","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T02:10:12.568Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2dc0b4b5d79b6fe5f6a8"},{"id":"q55e5b9c0e0c6069e5d6b","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-01T02:10:14.728Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q55e5b9c0e0c6069e5d6b"},{"id":"q5eebe5199cbc04013844","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-01T02:12:06.582Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5eebe5199cbc04013844"},{"id":"qd1031f7b10532ad3c4e6","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T02:12:27.900Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd1031f7b10532ad3c4e6"},{"id":"q2dbaf9eba1d4f824f833","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-01T02:12:35.639Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2dbaf9eba1d4f824f833"},{"id":"qf1e6b18fdc9d02a854ad","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-01T02:13:37.938Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1e6b18fdc9d02a854ad"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qf95efe4d95cf53431ade","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-01T02:09:31.771Z","text":"我就是这个意思，下游ACA capital不给利息，是他余建民的事","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf95efe4d95cf53431ade"}}