{"id":"q5b9065669ffa548efda4","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":438,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-10-15T09:22:48.364Z","text":"检方知道存在夸大和不实的债权登记情况，没错，但是不好举证。\n但Luc自己在202文件中已经表明他知情，而他蓄意不更新为准确的债权信息，就是不尽责的证据。\n\n接下来引出检方，但第一步要把Luc上庭的证词固定住，也就是以Luc为突破口。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qf597a84a8f6cb7e0ef40","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b9065669ffa548efda4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf597a84a8f6cb7e0ef40","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b9065669ffa548efda4","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5b9065669ffa548efda4/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q5b9065669ffa548efda4","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q6a6090708c47d8c29b5c","speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-15T09:15:32.296Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6a6090708c47d8c29b5c"},{"id":"q6337522c2de15c0ef383","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-15T09:16:11.835Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6337522c2de15c0ef383"},{"id":"q3929f62804ed8ee95ec5","speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-10-15T09:16:45.709Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3929f62804ed8ee95ec5"},{"id":"qe879e9dabdf7c2eebff3","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-15T09:25:49.193Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe879e9dabdf7c2eebff3"},{"id":"q13b4570a8857795bdbfb","speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-10-15T09:39:04.724Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q13b4570a8857795bdbfb"},{"id":"q08f6536554dcd2d8b949","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-15T09:51:19.150Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08f6536554dcd2d8b949"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qf597a84a8f6cb7e0ef40","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-15T09:11:16.679Z","text":"我觉得这个逻辑反过来用更有力，检方明知luc这个受托人存在以上的种种问题仍然接受他上刑事庭要钱，还把他的非法债权人当作被告受害者，甚至可能是抓捕被告的报案者。所以检方涉嫌共谋欺诈法庭，共谋制造伪证，法庭应该宣布债权人无效，并把luc踢出刑事庭，还要追究检方的责任，废除没收令，重新审判或直接撤案","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf597a84a8f6cb7e0ef40"}}