{"id":"q5be32c7dd46af68e8316","batch_id":"batch-000142","seq":125,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-03T04:14:52.095Z","text":"在老郭還沒有真正定罪前，政府及SEC應該是不可以關閉合法經營中的企業！\n就算老郭個人真有問題，那也是他的個人問題，可以換人做阿頭，更何況老郭只是名義上的顧問而以。\n\n政府及SEC蠻橫無理地關閉合法經營中的企業，實屬違法！","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q0985a6eb9b46c97c8870","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5be32c7dd46af68e8316","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0985a6eb9b46c97c8870","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000142","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000142","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5be32c7dd46af68e8316","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5be32c7dd46af68e8316/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q5be32c7dd46af68e8316","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qa35ab600845ce9c509b2","speaker":"may***","date":"2026-08-03T03:53:35.071Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa35ab600845ce9c509b2"},{"id":"q065afdb3cee50b44293e","speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-03T04:06:44.700Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q065afdb3cee50b44293e"},{"id":"q7e31aa3887079571acbb","speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-08-03T04:07:19.205Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e31aa3887079571acbb"},{"id":"qabdea34a3f24270c2424","speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-08-03T04:26:27.609Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabdea34a3f24270c2424"},{"id":"qee0437b011f94bfff550","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-03T04:37:37.592Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee0437b011f94bfff550"},{"id":"q1ff75a1f9ce83a175640","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-03T04:38:58.898Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1ff75a1f9ce83a175640"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q0985a6eb9b46c97c8870","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-08-03T02:26:44.667Z","text":"政府动议要求排除 SEC 或政府对受害者经济损失负责的论点。《政府备忘录》，第 67-68页。郭文贵辩称，SEC 的调查和政府对喜马拉雅交易所资金的查封是为了完整还原事实的必要手段：例如，SEC 的调查解释了银行冻结 GTV 账户的原因，这也正是政府指控的郭文贵启动农\n场借款计划的原因，而且如果政府主张喜马拉雅交易所的资金查封并没有影响喜币价格，那么该查封就具有相关性。《郭反对意见书》第 74-75 页。郭文贵的论点未对政府的动议作出回应，因此政府动议获得批准。郭不得暗示 SEC 或政府对受害者的财务损失负责，也不得暗示 GTV 和喜马拉雅交易所的失败是 SEC 或政府的过错，因为这样的论点存在着混淆问题和误导陪审团的重大危险。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0985a6eb9b46c97c8870"}}