{"id":"q5c6282b1f689dc9cc130","batch_id":"batch-000145","seq":22,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-12T02:58:10.400Z","text":"又开始忽悠了，853n是“没收”后才有，“没收”始于王案，王案绕不过Tony的卷宗，有Tony，重审时候“没收”就是程序不正义\n别带节奏了，没用","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q3638992f063b79a84164","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c6282b1f689dc9cc130","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3638992f063b79a84164","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000145","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000145","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c6282b1f689dc9cc130","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c6282b1f689dc9cc130/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q5c6282b1f689dc9cc130","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q8d97c9d5b8f279511bbb","speaker":"wan***","date":"2026-08-12T02:48:12.168Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d97c9d5b8f279511bbb"},{"id":"q07d3460f762e23d2934b","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-12T02:48:39.071Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q07d3460f762e23d2934b"},{"id":"q3638992f063b79a84164","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-08-12T02:53:47.161Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3638992f063b79a84164"},{"id":"q356305c020abd713a822","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-08-12T02:58:59.208Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q356305c020abd713a822"},{"id":"q01d2d8d7c8a615f30e14","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-12T02:59:34.518Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01d2d8d7c8a615f30e14"},{"id":"q3638b75fb8e024990778","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-12T03:15:47.742Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3638b75fb8e024990778"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q3638992f063b79a84164","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-08-12T02:53:47.161Z","text":"853n胜诉不代表郭无罪，也不代表这些钱不是犯罪资金，只能代表你可以100%拿回这些钱。除非你能证明郭从来就不是这些钱的受益人和控制人，不然853n就算胜诉，也对郭没有任何影响。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3638992f063b79a84164"}}