{"id":"q5d0c29f9984ffee32dca","batch_id":"batch-000148","seq":127,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-20T06:02:21.576Z","text":"基本可以这么说，但更准确的是：\n\nMountains of Spices LLC（MOS）就是“New York Farm / 纽约农场”对应的实体，而夏其东（Qidong Xia）至少被公开材料明确记载为这个Farm的负责人/leader、并以MOS President身份签过文件。 一份公开的Loan Agreement里，借款人就是 Mountains of Spices LLC，签字栏写的是 Qidong Xia — President。\n\n破产案材料也写得很直接：南区刑事法官曾认定 Qidong Xia served as leader of the Mountains of Spices Farm，而Yongbing Zhang是该Farm的“legal group leader”；两人还被认定为郭的co-conspirators，用于审判中的共谋者陈述规则。\n\nSEC 2023年的官方诉讼公告则把 Mountains of Spices LLC (d/b/a New York Farm) 直接列为被告之一。\n\n所以如果你问：\n\n“MOS是不是夏其东的？”\n\n我会说：\n\n从运营和控制角色上，公开记录强烈支持“夏其东是MOS/New York Farm的核心负责人、President/leader”。\n\n但如果你问的是更严格的：\n\n“MOS的100%法律所有权/股权是不是夏其东个人的？”\n\n我现在还没看到足够公开材料证明这一点。 “President/leader”不等于“sole owner”。\n\n另外郭方2026年的刑事文件还把“Qidong Xia and/or Mountains of Spices”并列写成可能控制约1亿美元相关资产的对象之一，这也说明辩方自己把夏与MOS紧密绑定看待。\n\n所以以后最稳妥的表述是：\n\n“Mountains of Spices LLC就是New York Farm实体，夏其东是其负责人/President，并被法院认定为该Farm leader。”\n\n不要直接写“这是夏其东个人独资公司”，除非再找到ownership/member记录。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q7c5eb5a26ce288cdf27b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d0c29f9984ffee32dca","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c5eb5a26ce288cdf27b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000148","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000148","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d0c29f9984ffee32dca","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d0c29f9984ffee32dca/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q5d0c29f9984ffee32dca","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q5d794db724af37c13c0f","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-08-20T06:00:08.744Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5d794db724af37c13c0f"},{"id":"q7c5eb5a26ce288cdf27b","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-08-20T06:00:56.265Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c5eb5a26ce288cdf27b"},{"id":"q6119a91d09774f05c45b","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-08-20T06:01:15.546Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6119a91d09774f05c45b"},{"id":"qe5ccf1acfb5325dfcc98","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-08-20T06:05:43.915Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5ccf1acfb5325dfcc98"},{"id":"qc1b51fba00853394df04","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-08-20T06:13:05.660Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1b51fba00853394df04"},{"id":"qd159c1cd076b483b57c1","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-20T06:14:03.175Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd159c1cd076b483b57c1"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q7c5eb5a26ce288cdf27b","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-08-20T06:00:56.265Z","text":"Mountain of spices是夏的","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c5eb5a26ce288cdf27b"}}