{"id":"q5f89bfb0b01ed19ae880","batch_id":"batch-000076","seq":538,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-06T23:45:36.064Z","text":"那盖尔有853n 又853i","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q4e472bda712049319aa4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f89bfb0b01ed19ae880","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e472bda712049319aa4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076/pages/3","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000076/pages/3","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f89bfb0b01ed19ae880","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5f89bfb0b01ed19ae880/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q5f89bfb0b01ed19ae880","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q82850509a163806b7568","speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-02-06T20:45:11.954Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82850509a163806b7568"},{"id":"q7d1facd5bbcaaf857fb6","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-06T22:53:41.315Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d1facd5bbcaaf857fb6"},{"id":"q4e472bda712049319aa4","speaker":"rod***","date":"2026-02-06T23:44:44.430Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e472bda712049319aa4"},{"id":"q5a18a164717551b7dbc1","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-06T23:46:10.598Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a18a164717551b7dbc1"},{"id":"q01a41adecac8c1df1c59","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-06T23:46:13.861Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01a41adecac8c1df1c59"},{"id":"q23f3c6b397ed1378658b","speaker":"rod***","date":"2026-02-06T23:46:15.304Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q23f3c6b397ed1378658b"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q4e472bda712049319aa4","speaker":"rod***","date":"2026-02-06T23:44:44.430Z","text":"法官說的是未必能通過853n追回拿回錢，因爲如果想通過853n那回錢必須要有確切的證據證明你是錢的owner，有些傻子覺得提交了ancillary petiton就等於petition for remission，這2個本來就是要分開提交的，之前公告寫的很清楚，ancillary petition是ancillary petition， petition for remission是petition for remission，你不可能提交853n然後也覺得你也提交了remission，這2個根本是不同部門的.","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e472bda712049319aa4"}}