{"id":"q5ff421be6b751316d206","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":154,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-18T11:16:32.565Z","text":"不用管这些弯弯绕绕\n比如[删节：成员身份]，因为投资VOG，导致个人账号被冻结，有金钱损失\nVOG也要被纳入刑事案","text_en":null,"edited":true,"reply_to":"q5966332b140d190bc677","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ff421be6b751316d206","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5966332b140d190bc677","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ff421be6b751316d206","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ff421be6b751316d206/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q5ff421be6b751316d206","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qec7381dc0ac6f869efdb","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-18T11:13:03.481Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec7381dc0ac6f869efdb"},{"id":"q4046eb77da404f51f4eb","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-18T11:15:38.719Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4046eb77da404f51f4eb"},{"id":"q5966332b140d190bc677","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-18T11:15:50.760Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5966332b140d190bc677"},{"id":"qc0511318cf9ae16d5ed7","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-18T11:20:06.702Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc0511318cf9ae16d5ed7"},{"id":"q35cc621fed7ed5b27a67","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-18T11:31:03.201Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35cc621fed7ed5b27a67"},{"id":"q4e2abe72bf0188a6d387","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-18T11:31:17.816Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e2abe72bf0188a6d387"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q5966332b140d190bc677","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-18T11:15:50.760Z","text":"夏跟魏，交易的部分面上是农场借贷。只是不知道，之前魏收的vog款，是否退回给了sec然后到公平基金，以及，如果没有退回，魏是否把它和农场借贷（包括凤凰农场和其它农场）进行了混同。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5966332b140d190bc677"}}