{"id":"q60a749013c3fc560f616","batch_id":"batch-000151","seq":53,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-25T00:51:06.511Z","text":"但是这里反而出现了一个更直接、更危险的问题：\n\nGXZ26到底给Torres和陪审团呈现了什么？\n\n716-4告诉我们，政府在2022年已经知道：\n\n* 有pooled accounts；\n* 有FV Bank其他客户资金；\n* 有correspondent banking结构；\n* MBI可以逐笔trace G Club客户资金；\n* 多层账户并不自动等于concealment；\n* 某些“fraud proceeds”结论是Alecci从银行事实进一步推断出来的。\n\n但858却把 GXZ26作为非常核心的证明：\n\ncash从G Enterprise账户流入POF账户\n→ 因而这些账户包含fraud proceeds / laundering property。 gov.uscourts.nysd.595325.858.0(1).pdf\n\n所以现在真正应该问：\n\nGXZ26有没有把716-4里政府自己知道的pooled account、第三方客户资金、correspondent structure、可追踪性这些限定一起呈现？\n\n如果没有，这个问题就比“716-4证据等级不够”严重得多。\n\n因为那会变成：\n\n政府掌握完整银行结构\n\n↓\n\ntrial summary chart GXZ26选择性呈现资金流\n\n↓\n\nTorres在858明确依赖GXZ26作preponderance finding\n\n↓\n\nspecific property全部被认定可没收。\n\n这条已经非常直接。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60a749013c3fc560f616","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000151","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000151","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60a749013c3fc560f616","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60a749013c3fc560f616/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q60a749013c3fc560f616","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qa8983d1bc15836673ad1","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-25T00:34:26.992Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8983d1bc15836673ad1"},{"id":"q33677076eecebe30583c","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-08-25T00:41:42.903Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q33677076eecebe30583c"},{"id":"q31cccad479a45b8a8f4e","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-08-25T00:44:13.881Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31cccad479a45b8a8f4e"},{"id":"qf1920ed1c92340edc20d","speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-08-25T01:05:46.889Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1920ed1c92340edc20d"},{"id":"q439958b494e5c531004e","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-25T01:31:05.597Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q439958b494e5c531004e"},{"id":"qdbb1f8ee085438c073e6","speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-08-25T01:31:22.672Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbb1f8ee085438c073e6"}],"parent_message":null}