{"id":"q60ccf0b5ba8243adc6b2","batch_id":"batch-000085","seq":922,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-01T20:50:36.089Z","text":"开始是那么说，后来就又算了，到最后有没有捐款都能投资了，没有底线，最终酿祸","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q2fb632f3a7bb5536f980","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60ccf0b5ba8243adc6b2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2fb632f3a7bb5536f980","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000085","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60ccf0b5ba8243adc6b2","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60ccf0b5ba8243adc6b2/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q60ccf0b5ba8243adc6b2","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q2155aaf7e87ea097f872","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-03-01T20:24:16.964Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2155aaf7e87ea097f872"},{"id":"q2fb632f3a7bb5536f980","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-03-01T20:39:27.073Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2fb632f3a7bb5536f980"},{"id":"qf92f13a9c1296577964c","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-01T20:46:49.895Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf92f13a9c1296577964c"},{"id":"q28011872cba3dbd467fd","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-03-01T20:51:14.453Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q28011872cba3dbd467fd"},{"id":"q0cf09ddb049cace76dd4","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-03-01T20:51:32.436Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0cf09ddb049cace76dd4"},{"id":"qf382b46cdacab39d00be","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-03-01T20:51:48.167Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf382b46cdacab39d00be"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q2fb632f3a7bb5536f980","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-03-01T20:39:27.073Z","text":"这些捐款并非自愿的慈善行为，而是被设计为投资 GTV 的入场费——投资人想买 GTV 股票，就必须先向法治基金捐款证明\"忠诚度\"。这就是为什么检方将二者视为同一欺诈计划的组成部分。\n这句话不对，在捐款时所有人不知道有GTV投资，郭宣布GTV投资时说必须有捐款，法治基金出来时他反复直播时说捐款凭证一定要保留好，很多次强调，我就是因为听了听强调很多次保留好捐款凭证，以后登上诺亚方舟有用，我自愿捐款的。后来GTV开始私募，排队找九指妖要郭的联系方式，那时我才明白原来是这个用处，在你不知道有什么利益的前提下捐款那才是忠诚，而且好像是有日期限制，啥时间之前捐才有用。他GTV项目公布后再捐，没用。我记得是这么回事","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2fb632f3a7bb5536f980"}}