{"id":"q61bf9b72efdd50c12d61","batch_id":"batch-000128","seq":953,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-30T04:07:12.629Z","text":"法官858已经说的是，受害者人数，和没收的钱不需要对等。即使你不承认自己是受害者，你的钱也是犯罪资金","edited":false,"reply_to":"q4f3081d08805eb5ba503","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61bf9b72efdd50c12d61","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f3081d08805eb5ba503","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000128","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000128","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61bf9b72efdd50c12d61","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61bf9b72efdd50c12d61/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q61bf9b72efdd50c12d61","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q40e91f3272a1f5c27b52","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-30T04:02:07.467Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q40e91f3272a1f5c27b52"},{"id":"q20a58a35827a1da8ff49","speaker":"0x_***","date":"2026-06-30T04:03:58.732Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q20a58a35827a1da8ff49"},{"id":"q9c3a01fbdad2aeddfeae","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-30T04:06:17.892Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c3a01fbdad2aeddfeae"},{"id":"q7e05e5c130256e7ee53a","speaker":"0x_***","date":"2026-06-30T04:07:55.520Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7e05e5c130256e7ee53a"},{"id":"q3c002a2f969a427f3bd7","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-30T04:08:22.505Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3c002a2f969a427f3bd7"},{"id":"qec4f7972929f5992a929","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-30T04:08:36.247Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec4f7972929f5992a929"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q4f3081d08805eb5ba503","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-30T03:59:34.562Z","text":"还有一个重要的点，法官所依赖的量刑报告里，不到50个受害者者对应了超过5.5亿的损失，平均每个受害者有超过1100万的损失，这与实际投资者结构是对不上的，根本就没有超过1000万美金的投资者。但律师不去质疑量刑报告明显不可靠，却在那里主张零损失。然后法官直接引用。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f3081d08805eb5ba503"}}