{"id":"q638065ea684154a478cc","batch_id":"batch-000034","seq":83,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-09-08T11:56:17.068Z","text":"1）白皮书没这么写；2）你对喜交所连债权都没有，因为白皮书说喜交所对于将HDO兑换成法币的请求，有完全自主决定是不是同意的权利。你把钱存银行，存活期，你要求取款，银行至少不能没有理由拒绝你。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q898c4858875242882afb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q638065ea684154a478cc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q898c4858875242882afb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000034","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000034","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q638065ea684154a478cc","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q638065ea684154a478cc/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q638065ea684154a478cc","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q8a7051a365b305297487","speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-09-08T10:53:41.587Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a7051a365b305297487"},{"id":"q7a794b7655a85719a93d","speaker":"rim***","date":"2025-09-08T11:03:15.205Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7a794b7655a85719a93d"},{"id":"q898c4858875242882afb","speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-09-08T11:07:04.489Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q898c4858875242882afb"},{"id":"q3db7679749221729eefd","speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-09-08T12:03:18.512Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3db7679749221729eefd"},{"id":"qaedebc344f092f9a650e","speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-09-08T12:10:40.098Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaedebc344f092f9a650e"},{"id":"q3933b9fd477c51aa2bd1","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-08T12:11:09.231Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3933b9fd477c51aa2bd1"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q898c4858875242882afb","speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-09-08T11:07:04.489Z","text":"感觉您对细节都特别了解，我想请教您一个细节。本案被告，作为喜交易所的顾问，在多次直播中强调hdo与美元储备是完全1：1储备在银行，美元储备除了用来供hdo兑换为美元外，不能对其有其它任何动作。请问喜交易所的hdo白皮书上有没有这样写？更重要的是，你把钱存在银行，你就对银行产生债权，然后银行在符合监管的要求内可以动你的钱。请问，喜交易所把美元储备托管在银行，hdo持有者是直接对银行产生债权？还是hdo持有者对喜交易所产生债权，然后喜交易所对银行产生债权？或者，hdo持有者，只是委托喜交易所把美元储备托管在银行，hdo持有者对对应的美元储备是一种所有权，不是债权，就像您把黄金托管在银行，银行只是保管，但所有权属于你。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q898c4858875242882afb"}}