{"id":"q65e8cbaef841ade80f23","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":706,"speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T13:58:51.363Z","text":"我认为即便有点瑕疵，也够不成系统性诈骗，我反复通过机器人论证的，最多是民事罚款。但是我本人更希望是检方刻意混淆和掩盖部分事实，就像螺丝哥说的，家庭开支家人消费和咱们没关系，但是我的意思退一万步讲，最多也就是管理不善的民事诉讼，绝对不能是诈骗。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q178de2be69b3377a4aa7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65e8cbaef841ade80f23","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q178de2be69b3377a4aa7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65e8cbaef841ade80f23","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65e8cbaef841ade80f23/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q65e8cbaef841ade80f23","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qdacf0af69d4ee8562db6","speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-13T13:21:37.965Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdacf0af69d4ee8562db6"},{"id":"q032a9bf1e3b9481e5570","speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T13:34:56.501Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q032a9bf1e3b9481e5570"},{"id":"q178de2be69b3377a4aa7","speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-13T13:49:48.243Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q178de2be69b3377a4aa7"},{"id":"qb2c4de521203a3f9201f","speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-13T13:59:43.192Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2c4de521203a3f9201f"},{"id":"q6456fecca641285c11b4","speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T14:00:05.394Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6456fecca641285c11b4"},{"id":"q7f9fb3e12fdb4005bea8","speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T14:00:26.503Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f9fb3e12fdb4005bea8"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q178de2be69b3377a4aa7","speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-13T13:49:48.243Z","text":"也就是说，仅是为前者；不论出现什么结果，总之不是为后者准备的？ 不过这应该是你个人解读吧，毕竟看到你对郭的某些局部认知，跟那几位更加“聪明卓绝”的战友有较大向左之处，对你颇有微词","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q178de2be69b3377a4aa7"}}