{"id":"q66c302aa9fba068c12c4","batch_id":"batch-000162","seq":358,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-10-05T16:07:20.278Z","text":"在第二巡将案件发回南区调查黑衣女人事实的期间，被告的上诉律师仍然还能正常准备上诉主诉状吗\n\n可以。如果第二巡回采取的是“limited remand（有限发回）并保留上诉管辖权”的方式，通常并不意味着上诉律师必须停下所有工作、等南区调查完才开始写主诉状。 相反，律师完全可以继续准备主诉状，而且这通常是更稳妥的做法。\n\n第二巡回的规则明确把 briefing 和 remand / supplemental record 作为可以并行处理的程序事项；FRAP 10(e) 还允许在上诉过程中补充遗漏的重大记录，补充记录可以由地区法院或上诉法院推动完成。\n假设第二巡回下令：\nThe case is remanded to the district court for limited factual findings concerning the unidentified woman, while this Court retains jurisdiction over the appeal.   那么实际上会有两条线同时进行：\n第一条线：南区\n调查：黑衣女人是谁；\n她属于什么机构；\n谁授权她接触郭；\n为什么能够接触拘押中的郭；\n谁授权剪开衣服；\n她是否参与把郭送往法院；\nMDC、USMS、医院、车辆、监控等记录；\n政府人员是否与她有联系。\n\n第二条线：第二巡回\n上诉律师继续准备：\n主诉状；\n定罪错误；\njury instruction；\nindictment variance；\nwire fraud；\nsecurities fraud；\nRICO；\nBrady/Giglio；\nloss calculation；\nFatico hearing；\nsentencing errors；\nprosecutorial misconduct；\n以及黑衣女人造成的 sentencing procedural error。FRAP 28 本身要求 appellant's brief 按照规定提出 issues、事实、argument、standard of review 和 requested relief，所以主诉状并不会因为存在一个有限发回调查就天然停止。\n\n更重要的是：调查结果可以后来补进上诉记录\n这才是这种安排的价值。\n\n如果南区后来调查发现：她是某个政府机构人员；\n或者：她是医疗承包人员；\n或者：她根本没有正常的授权记录；\n或者：监控录像与政府/郭的陈述发生重大冲突；\n那么这个新形成的事实记录可以通过适当的补充记录程序进入上诉。FRAP 10(e) 明确允许在重大材料遗漏或错误时形成 supplemental record，并由地区法院或上诉法院促成补充。还有一种情况：第二巡回可以暂停某个期限\n这就取决于第二巡回的具体 order。\n例如法院可以规定：\nAppellant's briefing schedule is stayed pending the limited remand.\n那么律师当然就不用按原来的期限提交主诉状。\n也可以出现相反情况：\nThe appeal shall proceed on the existing briefing schedule notwithstanding the limited remand.\n那律师就必须照常提交。\n所以关键不是“发回调查后能不能写”，而是第二巡回的 remand order 有没有同时改变 briefing schedule。\n我甚至认为，对你们这个案子，最好不要让整个上诉停下来","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66c302aa9fba068c12c4","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000162/pages/2","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000162/pages/2","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66c302aa9fba068c12c4","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66c302aa9fba068c12c4/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q66c302aa9fba068c12c4","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q2bbd0ce8fb8ee5563812","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-05T15:03:21.812Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2bbd0ce8fb8ee5563812"},{"id":"qaae3b4b1ff942e80d5e5","speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-10-05T15:06:19.300Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaae3b4b1ff942e80d5e5"},{"id":"q65862d1e3bfe61ac8465","speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-10-05T15:27:45.596Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65862d1e3bfe61ac8465"},{"id":"q072514e07a847f3fc5c9","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-05T17:27:08.763Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q072514e07a847f3fc5c9"},{"id":"q081bff0674630ca4496a","speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-10-05T19:54:28.658Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q081bff0674630ca4496a"},{"id":"q2cfa32336d136b80766e","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-06T00:20:48.141Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2cfa32336d136b80766e"}],"parent_message":null}