{"id":"q6b45cb2979c77b06405f","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":121,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-23T04:02:47.235Z","text":"1.    挪用和使用的定义不同：  [删节：成员身份]   \n\n挪用：挪用是直接扣留收到的来自战友用于投资的款项，款项的来源是战友（没有战友投资，这个款项就不会存在）。\n使用：是正常经营运作公司发工资交税费，款项来自郭文贵（即使没有战友投资，这个款项也会日常发生）。\n\n2.Sara收到的来自战友的投资款有两部分：\n(1) VOG Sara共收到战友汇来的GTV投资款本金：1.14亿，已经全部上交给SEC指定账户用于退款。VOG目前欠SEC的只有利息和罚款金额700万，不欠本金，所以本次公告利息并未增加。\n(2) Sara 路德的凤凰农场的三家公司共收到战友汇来的凤凰农场的投资本金：约8900万，已经全部由三个公司法人汇给郭文贵指定账户 (凤凰农场资金的三个去向之一，二，三：阿布扎比；LA； G-Service；详见VOG论坛)。Sara 没有权限转钱的。其中2家公司的拥有者在郭文贵身边工作：文家 Medical Supply LLC, 文啸 Santel LLC. 只有PJ Maywind 转向了政府配合调查。\n\n以上两笔为来自战友的投资款，均已经交给SEC或郭文贵本人，Sara本人没有任何一分钱存留。\n\n3.郭文贵汇给maywind用于运行凤凰基地的钱，转给6棵松公司690万，由海洋陈其生购买了房地产项目，本是用于继续发员工工资，房地产当时已升值净赚300万左右 （陈自己说的）。由于陈其生跟王建军想侵吞款项，目前DHS在对其刑事调查。另外郭文贵指挥香草山长岛在民事诉讼试图要回这些钱。","text_en":null,"edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b45cb2979c77b06405f","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b45cb2979c77b06405f","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b45cb2979c77b06405f/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q6b45cb2979c77b06405f","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q0d0b019c2d5d7889007e","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-23T03:45:54.339Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d0b019c2d5d7889007e"},{"id":"q731879d7411579341da6","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-23T03:47:37.468Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q731879d7411579341da6"},{"id":"qbd7b441ab6fb64072149","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-23T04:02:11.409Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd7b441ab6fb64072149"},{"id":"q31f1ff005563841e7680","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-23T04:03:07.929Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31f1ff005563841e7680"},{"id":"qb7ab89db7fb396204718","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-23T04:04:06.957Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7ab89db7fb396204718"},{"id":"q413b1b940976dc139048","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-23T04:05:22.460Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q413b1b940976dc139048"}],"parent_message":null}