{"id":"q6bed107c43a8364a8ed3","batch_id":"batch-000135","seq":74,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-13T12:56:37.233Z","text":"没那么复杂。有人找pax借钱，郭担保，还不是郭在借，钱还了之后，pax就说钱没还，那个纽约最高法院不让郭说话，用程序手段阻止事实呈现，然后就判了。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q9accdcc51d8e5b4d90bf","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6bed107c43a8364a8ed3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9accdcc51d8e5b4d90bf","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000135","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6bed107c43a8364a8ed3","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6bed107c43a8364a8ed3/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q6bed107c43a8364a8ed3","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q41120bce084a43c5c9e0","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-13T12:35:49.071Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41120bce084a43c5c9e0"},{"id":"q9accdcc51d8e5b4d90bf","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-13T12:45:43.738Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9accdcc51d8e5b4d90bf"},{"id":"qdee7a88b7ddecd66c770","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-13T12:49:45.520Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdee7a88b7ddecd66c770"},{"id":"q93c1858e7582107cd433","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-13T12:57:36.601Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93c1858e7582107cd433"},{"id":"q941bff3617bf692b6da8","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-13T12:58:30.512Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q941bff3617bf692b6da8"},{"id":"qc700bddf34d15bca0843","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-13T12:59:12.280Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc700bddf34d15bca0843"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q9accdcc51d8e5b4d90bf","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-13T12:45:43.738Z","text":"个人猜测：pax可能在贷款上， 通过HK那边，做手脚，不让提前还款\n提前还了，算违约\n郭好像说过，借3000W最后还了0.1b\n但是PAX诉郭，还是用3000W的借条","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9accdcc51d8e5b4d90bf"}}