{"id":"q6ddefd3c8e23de6ef1d0","batch_id":"batch-000037","seq":615,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-16T05:37:19.652Z","text":"那sec退款估计也是这么回事，没退的是不是都是国外的","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"qefbc5413bfbcd5ac0315","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ddefd3c8e23de6ef1d0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qefbc5413bfbcd5ac0315","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000037/pages/4","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000037/pages/4","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ddefd3c8e23de6ef1d0","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ddefd3c8e23de6ef1d0/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q6ddefd3c8e23de6ef1d0","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q34024fd6fa2f53a0d7a4","speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-09-16T05:22:03.286Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q34024fd6fa2f53a0d7a4"},{"id":"q8e450f175567fa9c3701","speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-09-16T05:26:39.285Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8e450f175567fa9c3701"},{"id":"q1bde3c2901b25a468321","speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-09-16T05:37:00.456Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1bde3c2901b25a468321"},{"id":"qd98505daba56206326c5","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-16T05:39:01.452Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd98505daba56206326c5"},{"id":"q2d0cfafdc6d4c03048a3","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-16T05:44:15.086Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d0cfafdc6d4c03048a3"},{"id":"qee5acc5a030f211d490e","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-16T05:46:02.082Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qee5acc5a030f211d490e"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qefbc5413bfbcd5ac0315","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-09-16T00:25:25.321Z","text":"怪不得当时联盟只要是美国人申请退款，他们都退的那么快","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qefbc5413bfbcd5ac0315"}}