{"id":"q71606a27a7d51c7bc0b0","batch_id":"batch-000157","seq":628,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-09T07:07:51.490Z","text":"越同意不是越证明他有独立决策权吗","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q95846b6f48db988c468e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71606a27a7d51c7bc0b0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95846b6f48db988c468e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157/pages/4","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000157/pages/4","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71606a27a7d51c7bc0b0","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71606a27a7d51c7bc0b0/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q71606a27a7d51c7bc0b0","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qdc893158274d62a82ad1","speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-09-09T07:02:56.759Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc893158274d62a82ad1"},{"id":"qef109e9d98b0211337a1","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-09T07:06:14.619Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qef109e9d98b0211337a1"},{"id":"q1b342ac2b56167101876","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-09T07:06:45.799Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1b342ac2b56167101876"},{"id":"q3493ec00a6f123d87bbc","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-09T07:08:42.546Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3493ec00a6f123d87bbc"},{"id":"qd37c1fa87630e2abe871","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-09T07:09:18.364Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd37c1fa87630e2abe871"},{"id":"q0af0d6eac04539eb3da0","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-09T07:09:29.183Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0af0d6eac04539eb3da0"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q95846b6f48db988c468e","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-09-09T01:44:27.807Z","text":"这是在破产案和解，也就是默认农场是郭的alter ego，与luc打配合\n但是在刑事案，farm loan这块","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95846b6f48db988c468e"}}