{"id":"q724ebc7dc6a299df0dbc","batch_id":"batch-000147","seq":163,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-19T22:08:20.611Z","text":"如果只打“滥用裁量权 / failure to exercise discretion”，不去攻击 wire fraud 本身的定罪根基，那么这套打法的上限通常就是：撤销量刑、发回重判，外加可能重做与量刑直接相连的没收/金钱判决；一般到不了“九项定罪全部撤销”。\n\n二巡在 United States v. Cavera, 550 F.3d 180 (2d Cir. 2008) (en banc) 说得很清楚：量刑审查虽然是 abuse-of-discretion，但在给予这种尊重之前，二巡必须确信量刑是地区法院经过 considered judgment 得出的；如果存在重大程序错误，通常的救济就是 remand，让地区法院解释、纠正错误并重新行使裁量权。\n\n所以只用这条线，大致有三个层级。\n\n第一层，也是最现实的极限：vacate sentence + resentencing。\n如果二巡认定 Torres 面对 material sentencing disputes 没有完成应有判断、误解自己的裁量范围、依赖明显错误事实，或者没有履行量刑程序要求，那么可以撤销 sentence 并发回。Cavera 就明确把“不考虑应考虑因素、依赖 clearly erroneous fact、没有充分解释”等归入 procedural error。\n\n这其实已经很重大。因为你的材料在量刑前反复把 loss、victim identity、ownership、cross-sovereign classification 与 sentencing 连在一起；第二次 stay 还明确主张，影响量刑的 disputed matters 应当解决或者明确不依赖。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q4ffed413b1fd82edb719","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q724ebc7dc6a299df0dbc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ffed413b1fd82edb719","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000147","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000147","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q724ebc7dc6a299df0dbc","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q724ebc7dc6a299df0dbc/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q724ebc7dc6a299df0dbc","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qffeb54a15219d2baebf6","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-19T22:01:17.925Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qffeb54a15219d2baebf6"},{"id":"q3a9cc0e6a1f08a8847d6","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-19T22:03:14.761Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a9cc0e6a1f08a8847d6"},{"id":"q9f316888c91303975b83","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-19T22:03:33.225Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f316888c91303975b83"},{"id":"qec14f2631782329930dd","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-19T22:08:43.156Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec14f2631782329930dd"},{"id":"q29f1bd74966c2e07d2db","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-19T22:09:05.757Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29f1bd74966c2e07d2db"},{"id":"qc30d4fa528bd370ef4e7","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-19T22:11:39.539Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc30d4fa528bd370ef4e7"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q4ffed413b1fd82edb719","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-19T21:24:43.494Z","text":"［用户 roy***］ 如果只用滥用裁量权 不进去打wire fraud 具体定罪根基  这个打法的极限是在哪里","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4ffed413b1fd82edb719"}}