{"id":"q731879d7411579341da6","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":119,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-23T03:47:37.468Z","text":"看不出来\n检方怎么得出借贷涉案1.5亿，不知道\n起诉书，也没有这几个公司\n没收清单，也没有","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q0d0b019c2d5d7889007e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q731879d7411579341da6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d0b019c2d5d7889007e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q731879d7411579341da6","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q731879d7411579341da6/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q731879d7411579341da6","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q49ef36748f67b795a25a","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-23T03:42:48.868Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q49ef36748f67b795a25a"},{"id":"q64e0f3422d328073b50c","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-23T03:45:41.086Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q64e0f3422d328073b50c"},{"id":"q0d0b019c2d5d7889007e","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-23T03:45:54.339Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d0b019c2d5d7889007e"},{"id":"qbd7b441ab6fb64072149","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-23T04:02:11.409Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbd7b441ab6fb64072149"},{"id":"q6b45cb2979c77b06405f","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-23T04:02:47.235Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b45cb2979c77b06405f"},{"id":"q31f1ff005563841e7680","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-23T04:03:07.929Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31f1ff005563841e7680"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q0d0b019c2d5d7889007e","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-23T03:45:54.339Z","text":"但是我们不知道农场借款她闷了多少。如果从检方初步没收数据看 能否推断出？ 郭说他们有100m 没被收缴。但是可能包括Kyle Bass 等","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d0b019c2d5d7889007e"}}