{"id":"q7413357b6253d99f5d53","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":762,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:59:31.352Z","text":"共谋犯组织要钱 是洗钱行为","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdc3af62f145286d3d100","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7413357b6253d99f5d53","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc3af62f145286d3d100","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7413357b6253d99f5d53","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7413357b6253d99f5d53/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q7413357b6253d99f5d53","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qdc3af62f145286d3d100","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T00:58:19.783Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc3af62f145286d3d100"},{"id":"qe581657eaddaa8e585f6","speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-25T00:58:31.603Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe581657eaddaa8e585f6"},{"id":"q12206476cc2b3df5fac5","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:59:00.157Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q12206476cc2b3df5fac5"},{"id":"q9f2b1b33174e3efb20cb","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T00:59:42.026Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f2b1b33174e3efb20cb"},{"id":"q4012b0d23a1debe227fd","speaker":"an7***","date":"2025-10-25T00:59:48.569Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4012b0d23a1debe227fd"},{"id":"q76ec12cd86f972f59099","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-25T01:00:44.037Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76ec12cd86f972f59099"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qdc3af62f145286d3d100","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-25T00:58:19.783Z","text":"文件344，非常重要的一句话\n--其次，夏和戴与所有农场领导人一样，都是被告的代理人，他们的陈述是在这种代理关系的范围内作出的。\n\n意思就是所有农场领导人，都是郭文贵共谋犯，当然联盟农场领导人都是共谋犯！检方文件382申请认定郭文贵有共谋的动议，也有一样或者差不多意思的描述，文件388法官认定郭文贵有同谋的命令，也引用了检方关于农场的描述。\n\n大概意思就是，联盟农场上面这些[屏蔽词]是法庭认定的郭文贵的共谋犯！\n\n\n那么，郭文贵的共谋犯参与或者主导的债权人登记，喜交所表格，数字银行登记，按照法庭文件解释，这就是共谋犯罪的犯罪过程或者犯罪延伸。那三个登记协议，都可以认为涉嫌或者就是共谋！要求法庭作废那三个登记协议，涉嫌共谋犯罪的登记或协议，怎么能来法庭要钱索赔啊？并且代理那三个登记和协议的卢克盖尔和Gavenman,我都有理由怀疑他们三个可能也是共谋犯！","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdc3af62f145286d3d100"}}