{"id":"q741bd4b30d86ca3636a5","batch_id":"batch-000005","seq":408,"speaker":"nig***","date":"2025-05-28T19:54:17.893Z","text":"这个不是哲学问题，而是法律问题，法律怎么认定受害者，不是由个体意志决定的","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q404b9c5c09fc38a3c26e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q741bd4b30d86ca3636a5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q404b9c5c09fc38a3c26e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000005/pages/3","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000005/pages/3","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q741bd4b30d86ca3636a5","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q741bd4b30d86ca3636a5/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q741bd4b30d86ca3636a5","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q72d6c81c231798c2e599","speaker":"nig***","date":"2025-05-28T19:49:03.008Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72d6c81c231798c2e599"},{"id":"qe899339d3a71718b16f0","speaker":"nig***","date":"2025-05-28T19:49:23.468Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe899339d3a71718b16f0"},{"id":"q404b9c5c09fc38a3c26e","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-05-28T19:53:11.738Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q404b9c5c09fc38a3c26e"},{"id":"qf5c642bb95f45cf6ed54","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-05-28T19:55:17.381Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf5c642bb95f45cf6ed54"},{"id":"q34f51609d68ac8d1388a","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-05-28T19:55:38.576Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q34f51609d68ac8d1388a"},{"id":"q31c74e7a7936b5e70ab2","speaker":"nig***","date":"2025-05-28T19:57:08.793Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31c74e7a7936b5e70ab2"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q404b9c5c09fc38a3c26e","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-05-28T19:53:11.738Z","text":"好大力，你哲学逻辑读的多，我问你一个关于郭案的问题，你说如果战友们都不认为自己是受害者，但是检方非要说郭诈骗，战友是受害者，如果你是法官，你怎么判","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q404b9c5c09fc38a3c26e"}}