{"id":"q74d26a0d551b9ed7bfb8","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":963,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-29T04:46:15.793Z","text":"起诉书里，G enterprise能包括1.5亿农场借贷的，只有ACA capital\n而maywind相关的几个，都不在\n那么这455w借贷，没有算在1.5亿内","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"qfa8b341640c67fc5d53e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74d26a0d551b9ed7bfb8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa8b341640c67fc5d53e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165/pages/5","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165/pages/5","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74d26a0d551b9ed7bfb8","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74d26a0d551b9ed7bfb8/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q74d26a0d551b9ed7bfb8","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qc8a75cea0bc3d5eaf46d","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-29T04:13:47.646Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8a75cea0bc3d5eaf46d"},{"id":"q2a0a09470f5f64e05ebc","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-29T04:16:25.657Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a0a09470f5f64e05ebc"},{"id":"qfa8b341640c67fc5d53e","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-29T04:20:11.901Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa8b341640c67fc5d53e"},{"id":"qf0aa175642d7ffd4a4ba","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-29T04:47:41.223Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0aa175642d7ffd4a4ba"},{"id":"q27459d0af5a2716c3694","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-29T04:52:25.363Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27459d0af5a2716c3694"},{"id":"qb69319b73fc91c070f30","speaker":"chr***","date":"2026-10-29T05:15:02.116Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb69319b73fc91c070f30"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qfa8b341640c67fc5d53e","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-29T04:20:11.901Z","text":"1 长岛MOS那里，有800w民事诉讼回款\n2 455w属于借贷项目\n3 回款在2024结束，在2023刑事案刚开始起诉，肯定没有算进flow\n4 没收清单，没有任何一个MOS\n5 这455w，并没有回到投资者手里\n6 长岛闷这笔借贷，这个行为，造成了损失，在已经量刑的情况下\n这部分他必须独立担责，独立被起诉\n而且所有借贷项目投资者，都适用","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa8b341640c67fc5d53e"}}