{"id":"q74ec82aa66b2d77de51a","batch_id":"batch-000152","seq":271,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-27T05:08:24.348Z","text":"第二层：银行账户控制人也不是单独一个人\n\n政府在trial展示的Morgan Stanley G Club Operations账户资料显示，账户联系人包括：\n\nAlex Hadjicharalambous、Limarie Reyes Molinaris、Haoran He。\n\n其中：\n\nAlex Hadjicharalambous 被银行列为 authorized individual；\nReyes被列为 authorized individual + key controller。\n\n而另一份trial证据又显示：\n\n2021年11月的一份G Club Operations → G Club International贷款协议，\n\nG Club Operations的签字人是Limarie Reyes；\nG Club International的签字人是Haoran He。\n\n这说明至少当时真实的公司操作链，很可能是：\n\nReyes负责G Club Operations；\nHaoran He在G Club International层面拥有签字/管理角色；\nAlex也拥有账户权限。\n\n所以“G Club是谁管”绝不是一句“郭管的”就够了。\n\n必须继续区分：\n\n公司CEO → 银行账户controller → International实体signatory → UBO → 实际资金指令人。\n\n这些是五种不同法律事实。\n\n第三阶段出现了一个非常大的变化：2023年6月1日以后，G Club换成独立管理人FFP\n\n这个已经是G Club自己的法院文件承认的事实。\n\n2023年11月的Dkt.2331说得非常清楚：\n\nAndrew Childe是G Club Operations independent manager 的director；\n\n而这个independent manager是 2023年6月1日以后才进入，目的是填补一个 “management void”。\n\n后来刑事案的第三方petition说得更直接：\n\nFFP (BVI) Ltd. 在约2023年6月1日被聘为 G Club Operations 的 independent manager；Andrew Childe是负责这个engagement的FFP director。\n\n而Andrew Childe自己还宣誓说：\n\nFFP自约2023年6月1日起担任G Club independent manager；\n\n并且：\n\n他有权代表G Club聘请Jeffrey Sklarz / Green & Sklarz处理刑事案里的第三方产权petition。\n\n这就解释了为什么5747里FFP本身也直接站出来当objector。\n\n所以今天5747这组人的结构实际上非常清楚：\n\nG Club Operations / International\n↓\n2023年6月以后 independent manager = FFP (BVI)\n↓\nAndrew Childe代表FFP负责G Club\n↓\nGreen & Sklarz长期作为诉讼律师\n↓\nPillsbury、Weddle、Ogier等又是过去参与G Club法律/公司事务的专业机构\n↓\n5747这些人现在共同反对Luc通过5739影响仍未裁决的权利。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74ec82aa66b2d77de51a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000152/pages/2","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000152/pages/2","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74ec82aa66b2d77de51a","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74ec82aa66b2d77de51a/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q74ec82aa66b2d77de51a","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qda2c0ace874a3f4e5b57","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-27T05:07:44.252Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qda2c0ace874a3f4e5b57"},{"id":"q053c43da79ee5e2d59e6","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-27T05:07:52.425Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q053c43da79ee5e2d59e6"},{"id":"q613467deec3733abd215","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-27T05:08:15.846Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q613467deec3733abd215"},{"id":"q99983c4d8bf2fd7ba1ce","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-27T05:08:33.279Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99983c4d8bf2fd7ba1ce"},{"id":"q060e524fd30665e6c001","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-27T05:08:54.588Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q060e524fd30665e6c001"},{"id":"q320f457112e53242def4","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-27T05:09:21.426Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q320f457112e53242def4"}],"parent_message":null}