{"id":"q751979ddf833735cb7f1","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":547,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-28T02:29:17.715Z","text":"倒是余 控制HEX 涉及的事儿 应该他自己背锅","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q3bc4a9887be06fcf448d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q751979ddf833735cb7f1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3bc4a9887be06fcf448d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q751979ddf833735cb7f1","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q751979ddf833735cb7f1/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q751979ddf833735cb7f1","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q3bc4a9887be06fcf448d","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-28T02:10:29.903Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3bc4a9887be06fcf448d"},{"id":"q0c5a78e5033bf5a2aa2a","speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-04-28T02:25:16.950Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0c5a78e5033bf5a2aa2a"},{"id":"q04b2fc667b368545ef2a","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-28T02:27:04.071Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q04b2fc667b368545ef2a"},{"id":"q21fdc0eca5f4e5894bab","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-04-28T02:37:36.642Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21fdc0eca5f4e5894bab"},{"id":"q455bdbecc26c347681a7","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-28T02:43:55.941Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q455bdbecc26c347681a7"},{"id":"qdcc8520f3c4b71374fc0","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-28T02:44:55.675Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdcc8520f3c4b71374fc0"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q3bc4a9887be06fcf448d","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-28T02:10:29.903Z","text":"就说没有实际控制，不能用刑事结果自动用在民事所有权认定上。检方需要单独证明实际控制资金。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3bc4a9887be06fcf448d"}}