{"id":"q771a723b66cd5b99477c","batch_id":"batch-000088","seq":366,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T13:07:20.247Z","text":"是这意思","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q42339b44a992e0f7995f","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q771a723b66cd5b99477c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42339b44a992e0f7995f","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088/pages/2","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000088/pages/2","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q771a723b66cd5b99477c","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q771a723b66cd5b99477c/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q771a723b66cd5b99477c","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q42339b44a992e0f7995f","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-03-10T12:30:20.099Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42339b44a992e0f7995f"},{"id":"qc147e4cde839b160bac9","speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-03-10T12:30:47.485Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc147e4cde839b160bac9"},{"id":"qbbe418ab5b37d665e641","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-10T13:03:58.011Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbbe418ab5b37d665e641"},{"id":"q47b9e9aa6bde95b10c4d","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T13:08:21.111Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q47b9e9aa6bde95b10c4d"},{"id":"q2756d8ddf4c95c57e464","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T13:09:09.012Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2756d8ddf4c95c57e464"},{"id":"q58c6d5b6abf02ea6d68c","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-03-10T13:11:20.972Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58c6d5b6abf02ea6d68c"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q42339b44a992e0f7995f","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-03-10T12:30:20.099Z","text":"二、如果郭无罪，他们仍然可以被认为互相共谋\n在法律逻辑里，法院可能会这样看：\n即使郭无罪，也可能存在：\n王雁平\n于建民\n郭浩然\n其他管理人员\n之间的 agreement。\n例如：\n管理层共同决定如何处理投资者资金\n共同隐瞒信息\n共同实施转账\n那就可能构成他们之间的 conspiracy。\n哪怕：\n原来检方叙事里说他们只是替郭做事。\n它们和被告的敌人的agreement：搞钱后栽赃给郭。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42339b44a992e0f7995f"}}