{"id":"q77b28747ea90a45b7445","batch_id":"batch-000106","seq":153,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-26T23:19:04.728Z","text":"刑事结果只能作为证据来证明替代自我成立，只有这一项不一定成立，不能自动证明。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q08d8ec6246b98ab2143d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77b28747ea90a45b7445","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08d8ec6246b98ab2143d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000106","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77b28747ea90a45b7445","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77b28747ea90a45b7445/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q77b28747ea90a45b7445","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q46d0a04641bc27f1f398","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-26T23:16:15.177Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q46d0a04641bc27f1f398"},{"id":"qdd7a2ba0e5367b406890","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T23:16:22.813Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd7a2ba0e5367b406890"},{"id":"qdd584894c024d8cd6a91","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-26T23:17:00.110Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd584894c024d8cd6a91"},{"id":"qd32844e1e03b22e8aae9","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-26T23:22:23.365Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd32844e1e03b22e8aae9"},{"id":"q0d1f9a9ca7a8d96f261f","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-26T23:23:53.416Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0d1f9a9ca7a8d96f261f"},{"id":"q99092aa86fe4303b5c27","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-26T23:24:07.509Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99092aa86fe4303b5c27"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q08d8ec6246b98ab2143d","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-04-26T23:16:10.558Z","text":"那rico都成立了 为什么这个案子还要扯皮","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08d8ec6246b98ab2143d"}}