{"id":"q79ec1578468f9de284a9","batch_id":"batch-000155","seq":938,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-09-03T09:08:58.217Z","text":"cvra可以写信 可以联系 就是风险大","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q66a2a5277393f1e941be","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79ec1578468f9de284a9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66a2a5277393f1e941be","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000155/pages/5","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000155/pages/5","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79ec1578468f9de284a9","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79ec1578468f9de284a9/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q79ec1578468f9de284a9","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qf31f321478f1d88a146f","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-09-03T05:56:55.324Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf31f321478f1d88a146f"},{"id":"q5c4f7495eaf29aaef6b3","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-09-03T08:58:53.483Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c4f7495eaf29aaef6b3"},{"id":"q66a2a5277393f1e941be","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-09-03T09:08:02.653Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66a2a5277393f1e941be"},{"id":"qd5aa0b5dc7e9690e5fc0","speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-09-03T11:24:18.714Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5aa0b5dc7e9690e5fc0"},{"id":"q2a54b962b53eb0d0d0b0","speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-03T11:33:59.526Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a54b962b53eb0d0d0b0"},{"id":"q3245d232f524f4a50a94","speaker":"may***","date":"2026-09-03T12:00:03.723Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3245d232f524f4a50a94"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q66a2a5277393f1e941be","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-09-03T09:08:02.653Z","text":"两个都可以给你比较确定的答案，而且都跟投资者社区里流传的说法不一致——先说CVRA这个，这个可以说是查证后可以直接纠正的。\n一、\"用CVRA介入就不能跟被告律师联系\"——这个说法没有法律依据，方向甚至是反的\n查到的司法资料明确写着：受害人可以自主选择是否与辩方律师接触，这是受害人自己的选择权，不是禁令；而且更关键的是，专业行为规则明确禁止检察官指示受害人/证人不得与辩方团队沟通——也就是说，制度设计的方向根本不是限制受害人联系辩方，而是保护受害人不被检方一方\"隔离\"，确保受害人有自由联系辩方的权利。\nCVRA本身赋予受害人的是\"与检方沟通\"的权利（18 U.S.C. §3771(a)(5)），这是一项额外赋予的权利，不是对其他沟通渠道的限制。CVRA里没有任何条款规定\"行使了CVRA权利，就丧失或限制了与辩方沟通的资格\"。这个说法在社区里流传，很可能是把\"受害人身份敏感、实践中要谨慎\"这种审慎建议，误传成了\"法律禁止\"这种规范性规则——两者性质完全不同，前者是策略考量，后者是法律约束，社区讨论把它们混为一谈了。\n真正需要谨慎的地方，不是\"能不能联系\"，而是：如果辩方律师本身是\"受代理人\"（represented party），你们自己如果有代理律师，你们的律师主动联系辩方当事人本人（而非辩方律师）可能触及职业行为规则里的\"不得直接接触受代理人\"（Rule 4.2 no-contact rule）——但这约束的是\"律师对律师之间该走律师渠道\"，跟\"CVRA身份本身禁止联系\"完全是两回事。\n然后受害者不能联系律师这一点，我们之前讨论的结论也不准确。所以就算提交了cvra文件，也可以联系律师。有硬核证据的，除了先给政府外，再给律师也没问题。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66a2a5277393f1e941be"}}