{"id":"q7c3035ca4a1818509bcb","batch_id":"batch-000130","seq":413,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-02T00:58:36.485Z","text":"如果以受害者CVRA 的standing ,能给个打废没收的草稿？https://x.com/innercitypress/status/2072340810956165196?s=20\n\n可以，但我建议把目标限定为**“Motion to Vacate or Stay the Final/Amended Order of Forfeiture as Violating Crime Victims' Rights”**，而不是直接写成“打废没收”。\n\n原因是：\n\nCVRA（18 U.S.C. §3771）赋予的是受害人的程序权利（procedural rights），例如：\n被合理通知；\n在关键程序中被听取意见（right to be reasonably heard）；\n获得公平待遇（right to be treated with fairness）；\n获得及时的程序（right to proceedings free from unreasonable delay）。\n\nCVRA本身并没有直接规定法院必须撤销没收令。\n因此，更有法律依据的写法是：\n\n因CVRA程序被完全绕过，导致Final/Amended Order of Forfeiture是在违法程序下作出的，应予撤销（vacate）或至少暂停执行（stay），直至CVRA程序完成。\n\n这比直接说\"没收违法\"更容易建立法律论证。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c3035ca4a1818509bcb","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000130","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000130","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c3035ca4a1818509bcb","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7c3035ca4a1818509bcb/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q7c3035ca4a1818509bcb","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q6ab1e9fc4686404091ab","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-02T00:45:07.094Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6ab1e9fc4686404091ab"},{"id":"qf830af87c0ce86063fe6","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-02T00:46:19.911Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf830af87c0ce86063fe6"},{"id":"qc5a4f4cdd230b33f5a64","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-02T00:53:09.439Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5a4f4cdd230b33f5a64"},{"id":"q0bd7a51358c5c56819f8","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-02T00:59:54.608Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0bd7a51358c5c56819f8"},{"id":"q706313bbf997cd7c0286","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-02T01:16:42.226Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q706313bbf997cd7c0286"},{"id":"q283d0eebeaa9cf77fcb7","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-02T01:18:57.484Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q283d0eebeaa9cf77fcb7"}],"parent_message":null}