{"id":"q7cb07a1c5a90afe552d4","batch_id":"batch-000068","seq":1000,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-13T00:45:04.746Z","text":"Luc确实早就接管了g系列各个实体，但gclub 现在过来说话到底是谁的意志，还有待观察。大概率是,luc现在无法过来主张债权，那就用gclub作为第三方来说钱不应该被没收，然后luc继续挥霍，顺便试着洗脱自己跟检方的共谋嫌疑。坚决主张那是债权人的钱，所以，不管打哪边，拱卒的债权是否为真，都是最关键的争议事实点。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q95e5a6df84c9bddae65b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7cb07a1c5a90afe552d4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95e5a6df84c9bddae65b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000068","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000068","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7cb07a1c5a90afe552d4","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7cb07a1c5a90afe552d4/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q7cb07a1c5a90afe552d4","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q8f6af78625a6c61abdc5","speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-01-13T00:30:39.058Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f6af78625a6c61abdc5"},{"id":"q95e5a6df84c9bddae65b","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-01-13T00:36:50.839Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95e5a6df84c9bddae65b"},{"id":"q1350666a65e7438ca600","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-13T00:40:16.369Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1350666a65e7438ca600"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q95e5a6df84c9bddae65b","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-01-13T00:36:50.839Z","text":"Gclub现在是luc控制啊，那是luc通过Gclub 来要钱吗","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q95e5a6df84c9bddae65b"}}