{"id":"q810a65340807308fafb8","batch_id":"batch-000153","seq":16,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-27T06:07:42.301Z","text":"联盟里到底谁是boss”不是旁枝，而是整个案件很多法律结论的共同事实枢纽；一旦这个控制链被证明得过宽、过松、靠组织关系代替具体权限，那么alter ego、RICO归因、hearsay归因和forfeiture金额都可能一起受到影响","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q9a6d885bb8c5f6049a95","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q810a65340807308fafb8","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a6d885bb8c5f6049a95","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000153","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000153","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q810a65340807308fafb8","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q810a65340807308fafb8/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q810a65340807308fafb8","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q22f1984bf768117eefaf","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-27T05:49:26.144Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22f1984bf768117eefaf"},{"id":"q1e4dbed4ab5c45059b4c","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-27T05:58:17.745Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1e4dbed4ab5c45059b4c"},{"id":"q9a6d885bb8c5f6049a95","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-08-27T06:06:33.025Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a6d885bb8c5f6049a95"},{"id":"q3701a769c219d079f9e0","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-27T06:07:57.818Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3701a769c219d079f9e0"},{"id":"qff4d59f7ee85882d2652","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-08-27T06:08:03.367Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff4d59f7ee85882d2652"},{"id":"qdfe21d75376c7f0e07f2","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-27T06:08:31.354Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfe21d75376c7f0e07f2"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q9a6d885bb8c5f6049a95","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-08-27T06:06:33.025Z","text":"我觉得您研究联盟的人及到底谁是boss 这件事很大 \n也是alter ego","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a6d885bb8c5f6049a95"}}