{"id":"q814852d603b701324d53","batch_id":"batch-000143","seq":691,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-08-07T19:57:45.790Z","text":"其实所有没收的钱都是853n的，也就是第三方投资人的钱，就是投资人证明的问题，具体说，就是你的钱是直接汇入检方没收的那些银行帐号里的，都是毫无置疑的853n, 如果是通过中转帐户，你就要自己拿到中转帐户汇入检方没收的银行帐户的银行纪录 ，你需要自己举证，检方不会帮你查证","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q050a1f4873797d464a25","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q814852d603b701324d53","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q050a1f4873797d464a25","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000143/pages/4","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000143/pages/4","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q814852d603b701324d53","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q814852d603b701324d53/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q814852d603b701324d53","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q050a1f4873797d464a25","speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-07T19:36:56.621Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q050a1f4873797d464a25"},{"id":"q0b79904c9d29a8f89385","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-08-07T19:46:56.127Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b79904c9d29a8f89385"},{"id":"q9f2c0fa67ce357be1ed2","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-08-07T19:49:01.222Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9f2c0fa67ce357be1ed2"},{"id":"q78c7cd7a74c32e4c0b9a","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-08-07T20:13:10.232Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q78c7cd7a74c32e4c0b9a"},{"id":"q2d57ffe98b81ecec5eaf","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-07T20:22:58.585Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d57ffe98b81ecec5eaf"},{"id":"qe5b32d0cebd0432da21f","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-08-07T20:52:18.907Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5b32d0cebd0432da21f"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q050a1f4873797d464a25","speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-07T19:36:56.621Z","text":"那就是說853 n可以優先拿錢？哪些人適用853 n？我們可以適用嗎？\n所有無辜的投資者都可以適用853N？","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q050a1f4873797d464a25"}}