{"id":"q82b4a4b41f1635e3d0fd","batch_id":"batch-000152","seq":89,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-25T22:52:51.472Z","text":"有一个新的实质性进展：8月25日的5739听证已经实际举行，而且听证结束后马上出现了新的 Dkt. 5778。\n\nBankruptcy Case 22-50073，Dkt. 5778，2026年8月25日： Trustee一方提交了 “Request for Transcript — Hearing held on August 25, 2026”，申请制作当天听证的正式庭审记录。最新公开破产案镜像已经把5778列在最前面；它同时确认 Dkt.5777 才是 “Notice of Filing Third Revised Proposed Order”，Dkt.5776是“Further Revised Proposed Order”。\n\n这一步比单纯“今天安排了听证”更重要，因为现在已经可以确认：5739确实开过庭，而且Trustee认为庭上发生的内容重要到需要立即订正式transcript。 但目前最新公开docket里还没有出现签署后的最终批准令，也没有可以可靠核实的minute ruling说明Manning到底批准、否决、继续审理还是要求进一步修改。因此现在不能说“5739已经批准”。官方/公开docket此前确认5739就是8月25日下午2点的政府—Trustee和解听证事项。\n\n对你们现在追的 26-1853 / Rule 32.2 / §853(n) / 第三方产权，5778真正的价值是：下一份最关键材料已经从5777转成8月25日庭审transcript。 如果庭上Manning、Government、Luc或者异议方说过以下任何一种话——第三方产权必须另行裁判、5739不决定non-party ownership、刑事forfeiture权利必须留给SDNY、某项资产分类仍有争议、或者法院要求修改order保护第三方——那会比我们从5777文字里推断更有力量，因为这是正式庭审record。\n\n目前 Second Circuit 26-1853主案本身仍没有查到比Dkt.16更新的可靠公开filing。最新公开镜像仍停在 Dkt.16（8月5日Dratel申请退出、请求Federal Defenders接手）；没有查到Dkt.17、批准换律师的order、Federal Defenders的新appearance、joint appendix、新briefing schedule，或新的Rule 32/32.2文件。\n\n所以现在最值得盯的顺序已经很清楚：\n\n1. Dkt.5778申请产生的8月25日正式transcript；\n2. 5739最终signed order / minute entry；\n3. 最终order与Dkt.5777 Third Revised Proposed Order到底有没有变化；\n4. 然后再把庭审中涉及ownership、forfeiture、third-party rights的原话，与 23-cr-118的Rule 32.2 / §853(n) record逐项对照。\n\n现阶段最重要的新事实就是：5739已经真正开庭，正式庭审记录正在被申请制作；但我目前还不能确认法院已经批准和解。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82b4a4b41f1635e3d0fd","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000152","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000152","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82b4a4b41f1635e3d0fd","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82b4a4b41f1635e3d0fd/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q82b4a4b41f1635e3d0fd","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qd4a1313e6f889ea06262","speaker":"nin***","date":"2026-08-25T21:21:17.534Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4a1313e6f889ea06262"},{"id":"q48fe4902e0207eae9d18","speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-08-25T22:51:34.349Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q48fe4902e0207eae9d18"},{"id":"q8d12b7281b4c008e828c","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-25T22:52:16.431Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d12b7281b4c008e828c"},{"id":"q32288ee2010f19ffe964","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-08-25T23:04:06.784Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32288ee2010f19ffe964"},{"id":"q42fca4ce227e3022d8f7","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-08-25T23:38:41.640Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42fca4ce227e3022d8f7"},{"id":"q72dab07fdce7903570f4","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-08-25T23:40:40.526Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72dab07fdce7903570f4"}],"parent_message":null}