{"id":"q83f2285736e17f56e2b5","batch_id":"batch-000145","seq":47,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-12T05:51:56.228Z","text":"［用户 joh***］  我来告诉你 托雷斯没有裁量权 怎么让案件彻底崩溃。 政治问题不裁决 主权冲突问题不裁决 有一系列法案支持 但是如果真的要论证托雷斯因政治问题 主权冲突 没有裁量权，门槛还是非常高。 但她蠢就蠢在，直接冲了量刑。这就违反了article iii最基本的 exercise 裁量权，根据二巡以往判例： 在重大主权问题 外交主权冲突 政治问题上 不exercise 裁量权 就是滥用裁量权，abuse of discretion。 所以我说托雷斯但凡智商为大于等于0的有理数，她都不会想到硬冲量刑。 本来全案推翻的法律论证我是比较虚的，现在她硬冲了 那就彻底被她的愚蠢做实了。 ［用户 cin***］ 你这个[屏蔽词]还在高兴我预测不量刑错了 你他妈真是个[屏蔽词]弱智啊","text_en":null,"edited":true,"reply_to":"q9ff8f4bf62b9256238c9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83f2285736e17f56e2b5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ff8f4bf62b9256238c9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000145","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000145","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83f2285736e17f56e2b5","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83f2285736e17f56e2b5/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q83f2285736e17f56e2b5","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q4c7cf55546219042b11e","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-12T05:34:19.442Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c7cf55546219042b11e"},{"id":"q32de68ca901205bb984f","speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-08-12T05:38:57.446Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32de68ca901205bb984f"},{"id":"q79a9146a6ab344eb3158","speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-08-12T05:39:20.811Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q79a9146a6ab344eb3158"},{"id":"q54f5afc8c222278d065a","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-12T05:53:27.942Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q54f5afc8c222278d065a"},{"id":"qabbbd81f8d4db10eebff","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-12T05:53:46.448Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabbbd81f8d4db10eebff"},{"id":"qa13e43d94c415d25691e","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-12T05:55:19.709Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa13e43d94c415d25691e"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q9ff8f4bf62b9256238c9","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-12T03:17:57.764Z","text":"往大了说，涉及主权冲突，托雷斯可能连裁量权都没有","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ff8f4bf62b9256238c9"}}