{"id":"q85ab2b1b34ff43126875","batch_id":"batch-000163","seq":847,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T06:08:15.378Z","text":"但现在问题是，闷的钱，怕是要出事\n\n二巡有CVRA的证据\n韩国哈恩那里的，草根闷\nmaywind那块，长岛闷\nGTV公平基金退款，张永兵闷\n\n这些都对案子涉案金额，个人金钱判决，是冲击，检方不能继续装瞎\n但怎么解决，两难\n\n不理会，不能开启最终没收\n要回应，选择路径也很窄：\n1 要么重算涉案金额，那就涉及了对敲黄牛，农场主全部要被拉回来说清楚\n2 要么单独起诉，立子案，那就是承认未起诉共谋，作证时没有提供这些信息，那么之前的证词虚假，检方的rico叙事链就断了","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q06ce1c63ba3b0d95aefd","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85ab2b1b34ff43126875","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06ce1c63ba3b0d95aefd","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163/pages/5","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000163/pages/5","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85ab2b1b34ff43126875","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85ab2b1b34ff43126875/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q85ab2b1b34ff43126875","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q3cd11f1af8f98d3a004c","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T06:03:35.807Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3cd11f1af8f98d3a004c"},{"id":"q34e8999271078dfaf9b1","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T06:03:59.828Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q34e8999271078dfaf9b1"},{"id":"qc1c226e8fabe389ba6ab","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T06:04:04.132Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc1c226e8fabe389ba6ab"},{"id":"q86e7cdfe51f41ca80190","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T06:17:31.750Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q86e7cdfe51f41ca80190"},{"id":"qa3273fe4a6fa426ede21","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T06:17:57.385Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa3273fe4a6fa426ede21"},{"id":"qf0724598d86e7d5c31cf","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-16T06:55:02.767Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf0724598d86e7d5c31cf"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q06ce1c63ba3b0d95aefd","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-16T05:59:07.234Z","text":"这是复制长岛诉讼魏丽红，的模式\n很可能日本草根那边，也已经有联盟的民事起诉，然后秘密结案了","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q06ce1c63ba3b0d95aefd"}}