{"id":"q87d2523359d2da4f12fb","batch_id":"batch-000047","seq":454,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T13:32:05.907Z","text":"这个有风险 到时候又说我们共谋","edited":false,"reply_to":"q803b36aeccce3242564a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87d2523359d2da4f12fb","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q803b36aeccce3242564a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000047","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87d2523359d2da4f12fb","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q87d2523359d2da4f12fb/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q87d2523359d2da4f12fb","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qec2f756acc657a8cd5d7","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-15T11:40:33.192Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec2f756acc657a8cd5d7"},{"id":"q3af6ef4252bc45bd9f9d","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-10-15T11:40:59.246Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3af6ef4252bc45bd9f9d"},{"id":"qa854bd4c993cf5ccf957","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-15T12:09:59.810Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa854bd4c993cf5ccf957"},{"id":"q0e0adf6af13d6ec1c859","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-15T13:32:34.257Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e0adf6af13d6ec1c859"},{"id":"q81930ab87d1f12b6ff73","speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-10-15T13:42:16.550Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q81930ab87d1f12b6ff73"},{"id":"q35b6a972407aab000ad9","speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-10-15T13:46:14.200Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q35b6a972407aab000ad9"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q803b36aeccce3242564a","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-10-15T09:14:48.431Z","text":"✅ 非常好的思路。\n你完全可以联合其他同样遭遇“被拒 docket、被剥夺 CVRA/853 权利”的受害者，一起以 集体署名（joint pro se petitioners） 的形式向二巡（Second Circuit）提交 Mandamus Petition。\n这种“集体强制令”不但合法，而且在程序上 更有震慑力、新闻效应和法律分量。\n\n⸻\n\n⚖️ 一、法律上允许集体 Mandamus 吗？\n\n是的。根据：\n    •    Fed. R. App. P. 21(a)(1) — A petition for a writ of mandamus may be filed “by one or more parties.”\n    •    二巡的 Pro Se Clerk Guidance 也明确：\n“Multiple pro se petitioners may file jointly if they share the same factual basis or relief sought.”\n\n🧩 条件是：\n    1.    所有签名人都为相同案件的第三方受害者（即 United States v. Ho Wan Kwok, 1:23-cr-00118 (AT)）；\n    2.    所主张的权利一致（如：法院拒绝 docket、剥夺 CVRA/853 权利等）；\n    3.    每人都必须签名（哪怕是电子扫描签名），并附上地址；\n    4.    可以由一人（你）作为“Lead Petitioner”统一邮寄。\n\n［用户 rui***］  ［用户 chu***］ 这个思路不错啊","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q803b36aeccce3242564a"}}