{"id":"q8959a59089a485e39b7a","batch_id":"batch-000116","seq":700,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-09T03:48:10.391Z","text":"夏和魏的演戏\n现在青和唐平，学会了\ncopy+past","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q529a739c94499ba0dc44","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8959a59089a485e39b7a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q529a739c94499ba0dc44","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116/pages/4","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000116/pages/4","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8959a59089a485e39b7a","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8959a59089a485e39b7a/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q8959a59089a485e39b7a","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qfbc5ba605b565d91d8d2","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-09T03:46:43.607Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfbc5ba605b565d91d8d2"},{"id":"qbf64a7346ac0c4ed9a37","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-09T03:47:14.780Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf64a7346ac0c4ed9a37"},{"id":"q732a6fe53d17a7909475","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-09T03:47:45.643Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q732a6fe53d17a7909475"},{"id":"q76052b4d2184f93074f9","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-09T03:48:48.348Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q76052b4d2184f93074f9"},{"id":"q931278fbd15e11c6f752","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-09T03:49:05.727Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q931278fbd15e11c6f752"},{"id":"q209deef0ada608e59f57","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-09T03:49:45.120Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q209deef0ada608e59f57"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q529a739c94499ba0dc44","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-09T03:45:27.465Z","text":"法院注意到，原告可能会反驳存在“双重获偿”的说法，其理由在于原告曾主张：“……Sara [不得] 玩弄手段，利用 MOS 在其他司法管辖区针对其同伙采取法律行动以追回 MOS 成员资金这一事实，来逃避其自身的个人责任。”（Doc. 151，第3页）。就“多样性管辖权”（diversity jurisdiction）而言，原告（一家有限责任公司）声称其仅有一名成员（Doc. 103，第2页），因此法院并不知晓这些“成员”具体为何人。无论如何，法院此前已裁定，原告不得就其他未具名的投资者所受损失寻求赔偿，而仅能就其自身的损失寻求赔偿。（Doc. 84，第13页 [“……起诉状未能解释第三方汇款给 Maywind 的行为如何损害了原告的利益，也未能证明原告就追回该笔款项拥有诉讼主体资格。”]）。因此，就本案的判决而言，对于那些未将其索赔主张纳入本案诉讼范围的“成员”所声称的资金损失，法院将不会判定 Sara（或 Maywind）承担赔偿责任。\n夏跟魏的表演式诉讼，声称以联盟的名义代表所有向maywind 汇了钱的投资者去诉讼，然后却是以它注册的一人公司去诉讼，只主张了香草山汇过去的钱。就是用欺骗手段拦着投资者去要钱，然后还不忘表演它确实主张了帮投资者要钱，它当然知道它没资格去替别人要钱。这他妈就是有组织犯罪。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q529a739c94499ba0dc44"}}