{"id":"q8a45376955cc0eb4d1b5","batch_id":"batch-000119","seq":968,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-16T07:53:28.399Z","text":"这还没收个鸟","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q7627417103f57d574259","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a45376955cc0eb4d1b5","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7627417103f57d574259","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000119/pages/5","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000119/pages/5","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a45376955cc0eb4d1b5","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8a45376955cc0eb4d1b5/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q8a45376955cc0eb4d1b5","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q9b099ec8b84f1f63461c","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-16T07:50:34.672Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b099ec8b84f1f63461c"},{"id":"q015ec96450655146f1cd","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-16T07:51:25.649Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q015ec96450655146f1cd"},{"id":"q7627417103f57d574259","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-16T07:52:03.130Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7627417103f57d574259"},{"id":"qca0ee160e300d636f24b","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-16T07:53:43.526Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca0ee160e300d636f24b"},{"id":"q42345d374631485ec18f","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-16T07:53:53.383Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q42345d374631485ec18f"},{"id":"qf7699e7fad36e386455a","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-16T07:53:54.141Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf7699e7fad36e386455a"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q7627417103f57d574259","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-16T07:52:03.130Z","text":"Tony 只要在动议中把这层国际法和中国《刑法》的保护管辖权逻辑甩在法官面前，法官和检方就必须面对一个地缘政治死结：美国司法强行没收分配这笔钱，是不是在公然庇护、洗清一笔国际公认的、涉及主权自卫权的危害国安犯罪资产？ 这种重大外交风险，美国司法部根本背不起。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7627417103f57d574259"}}