{"id":"q8b6623a4180d6bcb416c","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":489,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-27T01:31:53.023Z","text":"［用户 beg***］ 还有张永兵，闷的GTV公平基金退款\n王案已经量刑，GTV整体涉案，在14亿\n那么南区也需要解释，\n1 刑事案共谋，不及时披露身份，继续代理投资者（受害者）接收GTV涉案资金退款，是不是司法欺诈\n2 王案的没收清单，为什么没有GTV这笔退款？\n［用户 kir***］  ［用户 beg***］ ［用户 reb***］ 这个似乎是重点\n3 陪审团认为郭在GTV无罪，是因为投资者开始收退款，不存在损失\n委托给张的投资者，由于他的司法欺诈，不披露共谋身份，同时接收款后又没有退回，而产生损失","text_en":null,"edited":true,"reply_to":"q71b1dc117adf99ca7b43","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b6623a4180d6bcb416c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71b1dc117adf99ca7b43","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165/pages/3","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165/pages/3","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b6623a4180d6bcb416c","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b6623a4180d6bcb416c/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q8b6623a4180d6bcb416c","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q0561e14706c1b2444fbd","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-27T01:21:19.133Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0561e14706c1b2444fbd"},{"id":"q50ce125e6c0ef7f50f06","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-27T01:21:55.966Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50ce125e6c0ef7f50f06"},{"id":"qce73cd211eccbee4e73d","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-27T01:24:29.934Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce73cd211eccbee4e73d"},{"id":"q99c957860a2f541d10cc","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-27T01:41:02.099Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99c957860a2f541d10cc"},{"id":"q3795e24e974ce29eb5f2","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-27T01:41:12.243Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3795e24e974ce29eb5f2"},{"id":"qc28350f716807c6a68a3","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-27T01:41:36.282Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc28350f716807c6a68a3"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q71b1dc117adf99ca7b43","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-27T01:19:15.076Z","text":"不止魏丽红\n长岛也需要解释，赢maywind相关公司的钱，本就是借贷项目，没有给投资者，自己闷，那就是独立刑事罪","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q71b1dc117adf99ca7b43"}}