{"id":"q8b9fdf2f29dadb19e6f9","batch_id":"batch-000146","seq":895,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-08-19T10:56:43.823Z","text":"上面的1234 就是这个刑事案件的关键！ 检方、Luc合谋司法欺诈 迫害被告！\n用虚假的债权人登记抓铺被告，检方用虚假的受害者人数、金额让陪审团给被告定罪，用这些虚假的受害者人数、金额，给被告量刑， Luc 作为 trustee， 花了那么多的钱，调查结果是什么？ 刑事法庭也必须知道他的调查结果","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q60a8b9560c048d5a53e1","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b9fdf2f29dadb19e6f9","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60a8b9560c048d5a53e1","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000146/pages/5","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000146/pages/5","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b9fdf2f29dadb19e6f9","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b9fdf2f29dadb19e6f9/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q8b9fdf2f29dadb19e6f9","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q60a8b9560c048d5a53e1","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-19T10:32:26.131Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60a8b9560c048d5a53e1"},{"id":"q187304f6134e779ae45d","speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-08-19T10:36:41.139Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q187304f6134e779ae45d"},{"id":"q925867baff6380cd1526","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-19T10:38:32.000Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q925867baff6380cd1526"},{"id":"q72d503c5b733faeeeb84","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-19T11:06:01.591Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q72d503c5b733faeeeb84"},{"id":"qa6d76444a39faa6fd23a","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-19T11:06:14.222Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6d76444a39faa6fd23a"},{"id":"qb9b70ea7a52c5e36ff6e","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-08-19T11:06:31.571Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb9b70ea7a52c5e36ff6e"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q60a8b9560c048d5a53e1","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-19T10:32:26.131Z","text":"我现在认为真正值得做的，不只是盯5739，而是把 2022–2026 Luc ↔ SDNY/DOJ ↔ criminal docket 的交叉记录全部拉出来。\n\n尤其优先查：\n\nECF 89附近、152–153、186/198、597、691、724、750、784，以及所有提到 Trustee / Despins / bankruptcy claims / creditor / victim / forfeiture 的文件。\n\n然后再和破产案的 claims register 对照。\n\n如果最后能做出一张：\n\n谁在破产案登记债权 → 登记金额/理由 → 是否后来出现在刑事victim体系 → 是否进入loss/restitution/remission → 来源是谁\n\n那才真正能回答你说的：\n\n“Luc到底对刑事案产生了什么影响。”\n\n而这个问题一旦查实，对26-1853的价值可能比5739本身更高，因为它直接碰的是量刑事实来源、victim classification、loss、forfeiture和程序可靠性，而不是单纯资产现在归谁。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q60a8b9560c048d5a53e1"}}