{"id":"q8bfd3e365d59920f7ded","batch_id":"batch-000101","seq":233,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-14T05:00:25.776Z","text":"它们的叙事里，灭共演员转移投资者的钱，在破产法庭里叫做替被告欺诈转移，在南区这边叫洗钱。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q1d28e1a38437da4dd6a4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8bfd3e365d59920f7ded","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d28e1a38437da4dd6a4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101/pages/2","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000101/pages/2","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8bfd3e365d59920f7ded","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8bfd3e365d59920f7ded/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q8bfd3e365d59920f7ded","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q4f35f2849def4989de00","speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-14T04:29:31.845Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4f35f2849def4989de00"},{"id":"q8bdc99852c29b701c193","speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-14T04:29:48.223Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8bdc99852c29b701c193"},{"id":"q1d28e1a38437da4dd6a4","speaker":".an***","date":"2026-04-14T04:52:44.385Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d28e1a38437da4dd6a4"},{"id":"q62124215b13aa66a42d3","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-14T05:04:17.916Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62124215b13aa66a42d3"},{"id":"q80a26a8745755c55fd31","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-14T05:06:14.188Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q80a26a8745755c55fd31"},{"id":"q9dc1156907955550a344","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-14T05:06:41.972Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9dc1156907955550a344"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q1d28e1a38437da4dd6a4","speaker":".an***","date":"2026-04-14T04:52:44.385Z","text":"所以，检方不抓公司的犯罪法人，反而抓郭，而后各农场（公司）法人贪污犯王雪冰、戴剑锋，九指妖、李亚、长岛等作为污点证人指证是郭让贪污的，他们在替郭贪污，但贪污的钱款没有落在郭手里，而是他们自己侵吞了，因为作污点证人可以免于检方的起诉。可悲的是，郭的rico犯罪事实却成立了，这就是陪审团定罪的结论。看来，证明上面几个人是罪犯很重要，因为他们在嫁祸于人。检方找的证人存在司法欺诈意味着检方存在司法欺诈。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1d28e1a38437da4dd6a4"}}