{"id":"q8f0d38673d6960b4b316","batch_id":"batch-000145","seq":75,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-08-12T13:15:25.646Z","text":"这就是辩方律师一直想证明的。853n第三方几乎没有standing和能力证明这个。但你也可以试试。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q4dab190eb9d554908a07","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f0d38673d6960b4b316","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4dab190eb9d554908a07","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000145","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000145","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f0d38673d6960b4b316","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f0d38673d6960b4b316/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q8f0d38673d6960b4b316","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qb7420ec8739c913c2853","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-12T08:39:03.177Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb7420ec8739c913c2853"},{"id":"q3946bd21fa1695dd7aa5","speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-08-12T11:55:16.311Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3946bd21fa1695dd7aa5"},{"id":"q544a365ef168935d7f73","speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-08-12T12:31:05.722Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q544a365ef168935d7f73"},{"id":"q109e93edf0b0f86cf88e","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-08-12T13:18:43.150Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q109e93edf0b0f86cf88e"},{"id":"q38d968254144eddc7e20","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-08-12T13:20:11.739Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38d968254144eddc7e20"},{"id":"q19a012480b82ba878e04","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-12T14:43:24.944Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19a012480b82ba878e04"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q4dab190eb9d554908a07","speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-08-12T04:07:03.421Z","text":"如果能證明所有的錢郭根本控制不了也無法控制就能翻案","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4dab190eb9d554908a07"}}