{"id":"q8fe4b845a8f1ac976407","batch_id":"batch-000036","seq":200,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-11T07:13:34.679Z","text":"辩方律师动议里都写了，这个还用取证吗？","edited":false,"reply_to":"q17492b52b20ccf97916e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8fe4b845a8f1ac976407","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17492b52b20ccf97916e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000036","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8fe4b845a8f1ac976407","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8fe4b845a8f1ac976407/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q8fe4b845a8f1ac976407","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q687ed91edd15e1bf4a74","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T06:19:58.063Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q687ed91edd15e1bf4a74"},{"id":"qd3f211eb004450a3daa0","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-11T06:49:30.134Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd3f211eb004450a3daa0"},{"id":"q2f50851bc0292b92fcf5","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-11T06:50:24.904Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2f50851bc0292b92fcf5"},{"id":"q5daa3ecd9e750a773f16","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T07:14:12.685Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5daa3ecd9e750a773f16"},{"id":"qa22983f083f40323d13c","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-11T07:15:39.468Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa22983f083f40323d13c"},{"id":"q66dd6f0a9d0d2a4544b1","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-11T07:15:44.951Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q66dd6f0a9d0d2a4544b1"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q17492b52b20ccf97916e","speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-09-11T06:13:05.334Z","text":"下一步你可以做的：获取精确证据\n\n为了在 §853(n) 动议里引用 Luc 挥霍资产这一主张，你可以：\n\n1. 使用 PACER（如果你有账号或者请律师登录）下载所有 Trustees’ Fee Application，包括 interim 和 final 的全部账单。\n\n\n2. 查找 “Fee Application” / “Interim Fee” / “Trustee Fee” / “Compensation” / “Expenses” 等关键词。\n\n\n3. 鼓励写一份 document request / motion 要求破产法院 clerk 给你受托人提交的费用报表副本（已 docket 的）。\n\n\n4. 找到具体数字后，你就能精准指出总数（例如，“截止 X 月 Y 日，Luc 已提交费用报销总额 $XX million，法院已批准 $YY million”）。\n有英语能力和会计基础的可以去查一下，那6000多万美金到底是怎么挥霍的？","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17492b52b20ccf97916e"}}