{"id":"q9217c2bba707abc44a0f","batch_id":"batch-000097","seq":493,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-03T12:14:47.084Z","text":"不能。就像luc应该单独证明了g系列属于郭后才能登记g系列投资者为债权人一样。被告要主张luc违法接受虚假债权，他也要先证明，但目前为止的破产法是，只要被第11章破产接管，债务人就失去了证明债务真假的资格，权利就被受托人夺走了。但在刑事案这边是可以主张传唤它们的，但律师们都是在表演，都不敢干实事。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q08765928dbb6a338a981","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9217c2bba707abc44a0f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08765928dbb6a338a981","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000097","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000097","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9217c2bba707abc44a0f","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9217c2bba707abc44a0f/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q9217c2bba707abc44a0f","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q08765928dbb6a338a981","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-03T12:10:45.725Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08765928dbb6a338a981"},{"id":"q2c5274acb6886e046de7","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-04-03T12:11:02.344Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2c5274acb6886e046de7"},{"id":"q21ceb37f3a5628db5895","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-03T12:13:53.780Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q21ceb37f3a5628db5895"},{"id":"qc5909aabe765b31eeeb4","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-03T12:15:34.239Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc5909aabe765b31eeeb4"},{"id":"q724594b6996fcf32ad3e","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-03T12:15:48.533Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q724594b6996fcf32ad3e"},{"id":"qe6a877448650e8dbcc9a","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-03T12:16:16.336Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe6a877448650e8dbcc9a"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q08765928dbb6a338a981","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-04-03T12:10:45.725Z","text":"可是刑事庭都判郭鼓动那些是虚假索赔了，不能自动证明公族Julia也是吗？","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q08765928dbb6a338a981"}}