{"id":"q948fa3c3c570b5794057","batch_id":"batch-000028","seq":856,"speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-08-23T07:57:42.162Z","text":"［用户 chu***］ 螺丝哥，我和战友讨论，发现一个点，请你看看有没有可以深挖之处：\n\n债权人登记这件事，被法庭认定为郭先生鼓动的，涉嫌妨碍司法、虚假索赔。而实际上是联盟高层王雪冰等联盟人员具体组织、引导战友填报的。而郭先生1月18号视频是说的反话：“想发财的战友去填债权人登记”，后来应该是郭先生被禁言谈论此事，因此王雪冰等人大肆组织了上千G系列投资人的债权人登记。\n\n相当于是联盟管理层甚至农场组织制造了上千债权人，被检方认为是受害者。后面检方将联盟诉为共谋，也就是说共谋主导和组织对被告发起假报案。而被告与联盟是共谋关系，那么就是自己组织告自己？？\n\n这里面有没有不合逻辑的程序不正义之处？","edited":true,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q948fa3c3c570b5794057","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000028","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q948fa3c3c570b5794057","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q948fa3c3c570b5794057/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q948fa3c3c570b5794057","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q0ebb0505f6233e76bb09","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-23T01:51:51.604Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ebb0505f6233e76bb09"},{"id":"q1066f30da951b273f356","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-08-23T01:54:27.728Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1066f30da951b273f356"},{"id":"qdf86ebe3e9e354f07ee6","speaker":"chu***","date":"2025-08-23T04:18:59.760Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdf86ebe3e9e354f07ee6"},{"id":"q52d75be94a3eb842a890","speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-08-23T08:02:44.587Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q52d75be94a3eb842a890"},{"id":"qc7d1443aea721af23eaf","speaker":"wen***","date":"2025-08-23T08:08:16.323Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7d1443aea721af23eaf"},{"id":"q61d6f826a40aa304be91","speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-08-23T10:22:21.088Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61d6f826a40aa304be91"}],"parent_message":null}