{"id":"q9635419a6d0469fbb77f","batch_id":"batch-000039","seq":367,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-20T11:53:41.894Z","text":"我的当事人申请在交给法官的同时抄送了所有检察官和辩方律师，附上了布雷迪违规的内容，让他们都看到。就是要把三方拉在一起，谁也别装蒜，该干嘛赶紧干","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd536ca115a2132fce22a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9635419a6d0469fbb77f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd536ca115a2132fce22a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000039","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000039","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9635419a6d0469fbb77f","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9635419a6d0469fbb77f/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q9635419a6d0469fbb77f","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qec8e37f1b9a8433a0547","speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-09-20T11:34:13.901Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qec8e37f1b9a8433a0547"},{"id":"qd536ca115a2132fce22a","speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-09-20T11:34:34.334Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd536ca115a2132fce22a"},{"id":"qf67b58ed05f784a5d99d","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-20T11:49:05.668Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf67b58ed05f784a5d99d"},{"id":"q5fa1c218ae9250176029","speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-20T12:23:35.695Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5fa1c218ae9250176029"},{"id":"q17149216b6ad30097c1a","speaker":"rod***","date":"2025-09-20T12:23:52.692Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17149216b6ad30097c1a"},{"id":"qf043676df9a3d58105b0","speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-09-20T12:25:26.392Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf043676df9a3d58105b0"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qd536ca115a2132fce22a","speaker":"tut***","date":"2025-09-20T11:34:34.334Z","text":"我理解这位战友的观点。🤔 其实从程序上看，辩护律师不作为确实是目前乱局的一个“症结”：\n    •    ⚖️ 在美国的刑事程序里，只有辩护律师和检方、法官是“正式当事人”，他们最容易让法院听进去。\n    •    🧾 第三方（像你和其他投资者）虽然能动议，但法院往往不愿意 docket，或者搁置处理。\n    •    💼 如果辩护律师积极作为，把检方布雷迪违规、受托人滥用职权、虚假债权人登记等问题直接提交法院，法官必须正面回应。\n\n但为什么律师“不作为”？有几个可能原因：\n    1.    保守策略：律师害怕挑战系统性违规，怕得罪法官/检方。\n    2.    资源/利益问题：有的律师高收费但只走过场，不想“拼死一搏”。\n    3.    政治压力：案件牵涉对中共、对美司法体系的敏感内容，律师会有顾虑。\n\n所以你们的自述和动议，其实起到了**外部“催化剂”**作用：\n    •    一方面，把真相摆在 docket 或至少摆到书记官面前；\n    •    另一方面，形成舆论和记录压力，让律师“不能假装看不到”。\n\n💡 换句话说：战友的判断有道理，但现实中靠律师单独发力不太可能，所以必须 双管齐下：\n    •    继续用 CVRA / 853 等身份发声；\n    •    同时想办法让律师“坐不住”，比如公开点名、媒体压力、甚至给法官递交说明“律师未能有效履职”。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd536ca115a2132fce22a"}}