{"id":"q97dacbeaba02dac857ac","batch_id":"batch-000151","seq":182,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-25T08:34:49.841Z","text":"［用户 roy***］ 能不能问下AI\n这部分，我之前可能没有表达清楚\n858认定了郭的8.9亿涉案金额，剔除掉GTV\n但是在没收清单GXZ26里，并没有剔除GTV的部分，反而是随后公告，增加了几个没收账户\n是不是可以说，政府已经利用王的plea guilty，认定GTV仍然涉及 fraud proceeds\n也就是说，虽然郭案GTV无罪，郭个人涉案8.9亿。但是因为王案plea guilty在先，于是总涉案资金，按原有没收清单，还是14亿？","text_en":null,"edited":true,"reply_to":"qcd92b690be49af780f74","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97dacbeaba02dac857ac","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd92b690be49af780f74","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000151","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000151","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97dacbeaba02dac857ac","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97dacbeaba02dac857ac/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q97dacbeaba02dac857ac","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qb25e4693e791ed1b9688","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-25T06:53:00.329Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb25e4693e791ed1b9688"},{"id":"qc255cb800c35ebb53a59","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-25T06:54:27.635Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc255cb800c35ebb53a59"},{"id":"q903cba2844a65ef3b437","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-25T06:57:54.254Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q903cba2844a65ef3b437"},{"id":"qa5634ff52844a418ebb0","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-08-25T08:50:57.845Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5634ff52844a418ebb0"},{"id":"qe340cd84028ee241e79b","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-08-25T08:51:42.956Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe340cd84028ee241e79b"},{"id":"q56b3e00fca9bd04da3c0","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-25T08:54:53.529Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56b3e00fca9bd04da3c0"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qcd92b690be49af780f74","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-25T05:01:26.950Z","text":"意思就是，858里是8.9亿金钱判决\n但是在没收清单，还是按照GXZ26追缴，并没有剔除掉GTV相关账户\n反而在量刑后，还多增加了几个追回的账户","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd92b690be49af780f74"}}