{"id":"q99287d86b7eb5e7ec675","batch_id":"batch-000051","seq":136,"speaker":"yyy***","date":"2025-10-24T00:56:30.692Z","text":"准确，附属没收程序属于民事，引用rule 60(d)(3)十分准确，有1995年11巡判例作支撑","edited":false,"reply_to":"q637503df7fcda2c9d961","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99287d86b7eb5e7ec675","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q637503df7fcda2c9d961","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000051","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99287d86b7eb5e7ec675","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99287d86b7eb5e7ec675/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q99287d86b7eb5e7ec675","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q17ef67d29f6ca4570c6e","speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-24T00:53:24.766Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q17ef67d29f6ca4570c6e"},{"id":"qf55bf9136ab5c2fcf34a","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:53:47.495Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf55bf9136ab5c2fcf34a"},{"id":"qfb661e2d68c82f88bde2","speaker":"hah***","date":"2025-10-24T00:54:13.515Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfb661e2d68c82f88bde2"},{"id":"qdd14c27ae2989add51f6","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:57:19.932Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdd14c27ae2989add51f6"},{"id":"qe8ff8fe01e57cd890dd7","speaker":"yyy***","date":"2025-10-24T00:57:45.856Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe8ff8fe01e57cd890dd7"},{"id":"q99ba298ac46992364a05","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:58:17.576Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99ba298ac46992364a05"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q637503df7fcda2c9d961","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-10-24T00:52:33.027Z","text":"rule60是cvra特有的权利 基于欺诈法庭的没收令就应该用rule60废除 没收程序属于民事 所以根本不存在越权","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q637503df7fcda2c9d961"}}