{"id":"q9a1f5dd5084ea2c830fe","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":81,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-11T16:55:05.216Z","text":"2min19sec, Chunk Chyi in X, July 10, 2025:\n为了给老郭定罪，检方它最不应该做的就是把联盟农场也搞成老郭的共谋犯。这是一个最大的败笔。你联盟农场己经是法庭认定的共谋犯！这是检方申请的法庭命令里明确写明的。\n你既然是共谋犯，这个逻辑它就不自洽了。对于这法庭上Luc带出的债权人及盖尔Geyer、喜交所登记，还有数字银行带出的，共8-9千人啦。对于这8-9千人，你检方想把他们当作受害者是不是呀？在检方的眼里都是受害者呀。问题是这些人全都是由联盟农场最核心的成员组织、策划和实施的。联盟农场组织组织这些人来要钱。而联盟农场己经是被认定的犯罪份子！犯罪分子组织的这帮债权人，他们没有资格成为受害者，也没有资格成为第三方。\n最轻的结果，就是我将要求法官将它驳回。这是法官没办法拒绝的，因为其背后就是犯罪分子。\n这么长时间这8-9千人没岀来说话、没人去取消与联盟的合作。那我就认为你们都是同谋犯啦！我这100%是合理的，因为你们坚定地与犯罪分子站在了一起、言行一致地同犯罪分子站在了一起、无条件地与犯罪分子站在了一起！所以我说你们也是共谋犯、你们也是犯罪份子！检方搞的这个把联盟农场弄成共谋犯，它往左走可以、往右走也可以；逻辑不自洽、完全矛盾、完全扯蛋、这么大的漏洞它是逃不过去的。\n这只是漏洞之一。郭文贵鼓动债权人登记、防碍司法、虚假索赔，那是另外一个漏洞。我就不说那个了啦。\n就这个漏洞我看检方怎么圆，你们登记的这些人，如果你们不岀来作证，我就说你们是共谋犯。\n（完）","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":true,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a1f5dd5084ea2c830fe","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a1f5dd5084ea2c830fe","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a1f5dd5084ea2c830fe/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q9a1f5dd5084ea2c830fe","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qafa08016c8388892a5fc","speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-11T16:49:20.058Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qafa08016c8388892a5fc"},{"id":"qa5c32efab260c97ddb9f","speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-11T16:50:29.490Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5c32efab260c97ddb9f"},{"id":"q371240e5266ead2ec8fe","speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-11T16:53:30.120Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q371240e5266ead2ec8fe"},{"id":"q93aecb5ec0185826e6fd","speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-11T16:57:52.964Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q93aecb5ec0185826e6fd"},{"id":"q01db49617d468b12c201","speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-07-11T16:58:33.261Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q01db49617d468b12c201"},{"id":"q6d19a7f44f72ee190029","speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-11T17:00:06.727Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6d19a7f44f72ee190029"}],"parent_message":null}