{"id":"q9cbf9aaa623321f31463","batch_id":"batch-000075","seq":126,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-30T09:54:18.769Z","text":"你的不是cert 是writ","edited":false,"reply_to":"q984a6d8a8d01b6f1c313","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cbf9aaa623321f31463","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q984a6d8a8d01b6f1c313","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000075","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000075","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cbf9aaa623321f31463","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cbf9aaa623321f31463/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q9cbf9aaa623321f31463","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qcfa18ca1cdc559b015d1","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-30T09:35:16.227Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfa18ca1cdc559b015d1"},{"id":"q9e9f5f383d8a668074c9","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-30T09:51:28.238Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e9f5f383d8a668074c9"},{"id":"q984a6d8a8d01b6f1c313","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-30T09:53:38.791Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q984a6d8a8d01b6f1c313"},{"id":"qcacf3ba3b2c4f59a4620","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-30T09:54:31.310Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcacf3ba3b2c4f59a4620"},{"id":"q444c5bbcbab15070f330","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-30T09:55:16.162Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q444c5bbcbab15070f330"},{"id":"q608149de1592d73140d5","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-30T09:55:33.569Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q608149de1592d73140d5"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q984a6d8a8d01b6f1c313","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-30T09:53:38.791Z","text":"八、最终答案总结\n您的三个问题:\nQ1: 二巡的\"量刑前不用强制令介入没收\"是standard practice吗?\nA: 绝对不是。这violates Federal Rule 32.2(c)(1)(A)。\nQ2: 其它巡回法院的forfeiture mandamus都是量刑后吗?\nA: 没有证据表明如此。相反，Rule要求\"before sentencing\"。\nQ3: 地区法院能否将§853(n)推到量刑后?\nA: 不能。这直接违反Rule 32.2(c)(1)(A)和§853(n)(3)。\n您应该在Cert中强调:\n这不仅仅是二巡clerk越权的问题。\n这是二巡创造了一个与Federal Rules直接冲突的practice。\n这使得您的cert petition更strong，因为:\n✓ 不是circuit split (harder to prove)\n✓ 而是 Circuit vs. Federal Rule (easier to show)\n✓ Supreme Court经常grant cert来enforce uniformity of Federal Rules\n这大大增加了您cert被granted的机会！\n需要我帮您把这些发现incorporate到revised cert petition中吗?\n按照这个观点，好像对你的裁定本身都可能可以被cert。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q984a6d8a8d01b6f1c313"}}