{"id":"q9ccd563bcb471cd6d429","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":325,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-24T06:53:43.991Z","text":"这逻辑有点乱了，因为债权人郭被绑到g系列，因为被绑到g系列所以他被起诉诈骗。但是，债权人登记的时候郭跟g系列是无关的，那些人根本不是郭的债权人，所以当时破产庭把郭绑到g系列本身就是错的，现在的一切都是建立在这个当初破产庭错误的结论上的。所以要推翻债权人，还得去证明当时郭跟g系列无关，就跟gtv一样，所以真正的毒树应该是破产庭强行把g系列投资人认作郭的债权人。 是不是这个逻辑？ ［用户 rui***］","edited":true,"reply_to":"q00397bf21877522fcb5d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ccd563bcb471cd6d429","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00397bf21877522fcb5d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018","notice":"清洗后的社区讨论原话，按时间分批归档，固定首次采集版本，不随原作者后续编辑或删除更新，不含附件内容。含不同观点、推测与未经核实的主张，不代表本站结论或法院认定。导读仅供定位，请阅读完整发言及回复上下文，并结合一手文书核验。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ccd563bcb471cd6d429","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ccd563bcb471cd6d429/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q9ccd563bcb471cd6d429","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q672d75496db9dcebfc55","speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-24T05:52:44.020Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q672d75496db9dcebfc55"},{"id":"q8ec317667f6941b54a6d","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-24T06:14:58.709Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8ec317667f6941b54a6d"},{"id":"q932113d355ac892b492e","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-24T06:15:14.400Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q932113d355ac892b492e"},{"id":"qe11d76075c3cc34cb775","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-24T07:04:12.690Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe11d76075c3cc34cb775"},{"id":"q5ace2c76845aea2c1548","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-24T07:04:48.677Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ace2c76845aea2c1548"},{"id":"qcb092f3c8dd8f4a5de9c","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-24T07:05:28.683Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb092f3c8dd8f4a5de9c"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q00397bf21877522fcb5d","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-24T00:58:59.608Z","text":"债券人登记不合法的原因是，在郭没有被判之前，郭并不欠G系列投资人的钱。但是现在郭被判了，郭确实欠这些人钱了。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00397bf21877522fcb5d"}}